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Air Marshals Too Visible
NewsMax ^ | 6/1/04 | Phil Brennan

Posted on 05/31/2004 4:51:50 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: snopercod
congress passed a law almost two years ago to arm pilots.

IIRC there's an older law stating something about a "right to keep and bear arms."
How did being armed on a privately owned aircraft become the governments business?

41 posted on 06/01/2004 4:33:22 AM PDT by ASA Vet (The "FreeRepublic French" would rather our grandchildren decide which culture is to survive.)
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To: ASA Vet
How did being armed on a privately owned aircraft become the governments business?

Darn good question. I think the idea to disarm passengers started when commercial aircraft were getting hijacked to Cuba.

There may be some history in FAA began 'disarming' pilots in '87

42 posted on 06/01/2004 4:42:03 AM PDT by snopercod (I'm a mean motor scooter and a bad go getter.)
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To: Specter50
Yes, a very few ATPs have managed to jump over all the hurdles which the TSA has placed in the way of getting them armed.

KEEPING PILOTS UNARMED

Simply put, the TSA's intimidating background screenings, which involve intrusive psychological tests; its threats of sharing its opinion of the pilot's psychological fitness with the FAA and the pilot's employer; its refusal to issue standard federal credentials to FFDO graduates; its ridiculous requirement that the firearm be carried in a lockbox onto the airplane, instead of on the FFDO's person; its use of only one distant training facility; its instructions to Federal Air Marshals to police the FFDO's; and its arbitrary and unnecessary disqualifications of FFDO candidates, have combined to discourage most of those pilots who would have otherwise volunteered.

43 posted on 06/01/2004 4:46:13 AM PDT by snopercod (I'm a mean motor scooter and a bad go getter.)
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To: sibbel
it would be easy for them to overwhelm the marshalls and take their guns...

with their bare hands?

44 posted on 06/01/2004 6:39:31 AM PDT by fourdeuce82d
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45 posted on 06/01/2004 6:49:09 AM PDT by Kenton ("Life is tough, and it's really tough when you're stupid" - Damon Runyon)
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To: sibbel
If there is a large group of well trained terrorists, it would be easy for them to overwhelm the marshalls and take their guns...

Valid point, but after 9/11, I would say it's highly unlikely because I for one would not simply sit there and watch, gun or no gun.

46 posted on 06/01/2004 8:43:15 AM PDT by b4its2late (Algore probably invented the tagline.....)
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To: I_killed_kenny
You killed Kenny? Oh no......

Welcome to FR.

47 posted on 06/01/2004 8:44:50 AM PDT by b4its2late (Algore probably invented the tagline.....)
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To: Buffalo Head
Sig P229 chambered for 357 Sig

Fine choice

48 posted on 06/01/2004 9:23:36 AM PDT by paul51
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To: eno_
"High Government Officials on board"

They don't fly commercial.
49 posted on 06/01/2004 9:48:49 AM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: t1b8zs

These were not crew members. They were "business" people. No airline uniforms, hats, luggage etc. It was odd or I wouldn't have thought about it twice.


50 posted on 06/01/2004 10:24:13 AM PDT by TXBubba (aka TXBubbette)
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To: b4its2late
Yeah that is true as well,
but less visible air-marshalls would be
the better way to handle it...
Or as in El Al flights...fortified doors for the cockpit.
51 posted on 06/01/2004 5:11:23 PM PDT by sibbel
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