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Moore interviewed Berg for "Fahrenheit" [index to thread at reply #1859]
Salon.com ^ | May 27, 2004 | Rebecca Traister

Posted on 05/27/2004 9:26:51 PM PDT by Rennes Templar

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To: proud American in Canada

I don't know if this has been posted before, but I am positive that I read that Fahrenheit 911 contains video footage of the prison abuse at Abu Ghraib.

Now, that seems strange to me. How exactly did he get that, and when?



It would be helpful if we knew what was in Moore's hit film shown in France.


841 posted on 05/28/2004 2:19:39 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( WHAT DID MICHAEL MOORE KNOW ABOUT NICK BERG? WHEN DID HE KNOW IT?)
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To: Darlin'

Well, one thing is for sure; now that this has broken in so many people, sooner or later somebody is going to ask this jerk HOW he met Nick Berg.


842 posted on 05/28/2004 2:19:51 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin; All
Is there ANy way to do a Separate thread on a dateline and info basis only? Dates and contents of e-mails...dates ofKNOWN overseas trips, Kenya, 2 to Iraq....date when missing...what those two hotel people in Baghdad said about him and what he left behind....quotes from his father....etc.?

It would be terrific if all info we have were "catalogued" somehow.....and THEN we could noodle it. What do you all think?

843 posted on 05/28/2004 2:21:25 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience. DCN)
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To: BlessedByLiberty

Some interesting Berg research is done by a radical leftist guy named Soj - an American writing out of a Romanian blog site. His conclusions are preposterous but some of his research is quite in depth and unpublished elsewhere. He's got a multi part series going on Berg, some of it total hogwash, some of it interesting. If you don't mind wading through his anti U.S. rhetoric you can find his stuff here:

http://www.weblog.ro/soj?day=20&month=05&year=2004&


844 posted on 05/28/2004 2:22:12 PM PDT by nerdgirl
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To: Junior_G
What motivation would Moore have for lying about having the interview footage?

I can think of a few.

One, he's a media whore. He put his finger in the wind and figured that his new film is going to be a box office bomb. He tried the trick of whining about not being able to get a distributor because of the controversial nature of his film. Heck, it worked for Mel Gibson, he figured. Hmmm...didn't work for Moore, though. He won the top award at Cannes and figured maybe that'd bring him some box office. Wrong again. Within a few days of Cannes, he'd already dropped out of the headlines and people were yawning. Suddenly this story of the Nick Berg video is "leaked" to salon.com. Don't believe for a minute that anything is accidentally "leaked" to salon.com without Moore's knowledge and blessing, if not his outright instigation. Now everyone is talking about Michael Moore and F911 again.

Two, he's an America hating Bush bashing idiot of the highest magnitude. So is Nick Berg's father. With Mike Berg's shared agenda and cooperation, they're both happy to use the brutal murder of Nick Berg as nothing more than a prop. Between the two of them, they can cook and spin this anyway they like. Moore can scream about becoming an FBI and Bush administration target when he refuses to release the video. Imagine him screaming, "The Bush regime has NO principals and NO morals. Nick Berg's family doesn't want the Bush propagandists to have this video of their son. How dare Bush make such demands of a grieving family?" That's just one scenario I can think of.

So far it doesn't make him look good.

You don't really think he cares about that, do you?

845 posted on 05/28/2004 2:22:53 PM PDT by lonevoice (Some things have to be believed to be seen)
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To: Howlin

I was very sorry to read about your son!


846 posted on 05/28/2004 2:23:04 PM PDT by nerdgirl
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To: Ann Archy; Howlin

Great idea. I nominate Howlin'.


847 posted on 05/28/2004 2:23:16 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: Howlin

"As a person who lost a son that age"

I'm so sorry to hear that, Howlin.

And you're right, Mr. Berg's reaction to Nick's death has been nothing short of bizarre. It just doesn't ring true with the public story.

And even if all we're speculating about is true, and Nick went over there to subvert the war, etc., with his father's blessing, and things went so wrong, one would think the father would suddenly realize the horror of what he had done.

On the other hand, perhaps not. Perhaps that would be too awful for him to consciously accept.

That kind of psychological displacement would explain his vicious lashing out so viciously at GW Bush.


848 posted on 05/28/2004 2:23:57 PM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: Ann Archy

Great idea for a research oriented thread on Berg. Add me to the list if there is a "ping" thing!


849 posted on 05/28/2004 2:24:11 PM PDT by nerdgirl
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To: nerdgirl

Thank you - bookmarked and will wade through it later.


850 posted on 05/28/2004 2:24:24 PM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: NRA2BFree

I think that the articles that claim that the Berg murder was staged by the Bush administration are aimed at deflecting any revelations of what the FBI or CIA know about Nick Berg. I think that Berg has been an anti-American leftist since his schoold days in Norman, OK, when he shared his computer with Mussoui and I doubt that it was really Berg senior who registered Berg's business on the ANSWER web site. What would motivate a father to place the name of his son's business on a communist web site if he knew the son would not support that? It just doesn't make sense. Nick Berg was not a Bush supporter.


851 posted on 05/28/2004 2:24:46 PM PDT by Eva
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To: proud American in Canada
From a google search on "Abu Ghraib, Farenheit 911":

One sequence, for example, shot for Moore by free-lancers in Iraq, shows American soldiers in the field humiliating Iraqi detainees. "You've not seen footage and photographs outside the prisons," Moore said. "This occurred in the field. This occurred outside the prison walls. That is disgraceful."

Source

Don't have time to do any more searches right now..."see" y'all tonight!

852 posted on 05/28/2004 2:25:47 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Grampa Dave

"It would be helpful if we knew what was in Moore's hit film shown in France."

Exactly! I feel the same way.

People have asked him to "distribute" the film on the Internet, yet he refuses.

Perhaps there are reasons other than money that would explain that.


853 posted on 05/28/2004 2:25:49 PM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: Grampa Dave

Didn't Aziz show up at a Freep?


854 posted on 05/28/2004 2:26:17 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: 91B
I would like to go with that.

Only 2 things...

1. I don't know that Nick was as "conservative" as he was capitalist, and hated dictatorships. (fits his profile from all I've read by his friends & teachers anyway) His friend, Luke Lorenz, said he wasn't so much "pro Bush" as he was "Pro-Iraqi freedom" efforts by Bush.

2. It seems that most of the things that seem too coincidental, are things that happened going back years.

So if we say he went to Iraq for the reasons he gave (not as a spy) then we have to throw out our suspicions about everything that happened before - like the e-mail, the Prometheus name, his politics conflicting with his dad's...

I see nothing strange about the last two, but many do, and it could be something.
855 posted on 05/28/2004 2:27:42 PM PDT by Trinity_Tx (Most of our so-called reasoning consists in finding arguments for going on believin as we already do)
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To: Ann Archy

If someone does this, please add me to it!


856 posted on 05/28/2004 2:28:48 PM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: Howlin

Yes, I'm sure someone will but I also sure he will never answer truthfully. He is a sham, a con man and a disgusting pig.


857 posted on 05/28/2004 2:29:01 PM PDT by Darlin' ("I will not forget this wound to my country." President George W Bush, 20 Sept 2001)
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To: ravingnutter

Thank you!

have a great evening...


858 posted on 05/28/2004 2:29:01 PM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: Saundra Duffy

Nice catch!


859 posted on 05/28/2004 2:29:03 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: nerdgirl

Ah, you should have warned us about those pictures!!!!


860 posted on 05/28/2004 2:30:08 PM PDT by Howlin
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