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U.S. Hate Crime Bill Could Criminalize Biblical Truth, Pro-Family Spokesman Fears
http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/5/272004c.asp ^ | May 27, 2004 | Bill Fancher and Jenni Parker

Posted on 05/27/2004 6:19:31 PM PDT by take

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To: hedgetrimmer

If I was there to watch he would just quietly shake his head in disgust. I know him well.


41 posted on 05/27/2004 8:15:13 PM PDT by steve86
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To: take; All

There will be no such thing as a hate crime until someone is charged with one against a White Man.


42 posted on 05/27/2004 8:16:35 PM PDT by baltodog (There are three kinds of people: Those who can count, and those who can't.)
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To: take
"Even though this bill is sponsored by Gordon Smith and Orrin Hatch -- both Republicans -- it's really the old Kennedy hate crimes bill that's been resurrected

This SURPRISES him? Orrin Hatch is an enemy of America. To paraphrase "Manchurian Candidate", if Hatch were a paid agent of Al Queda he could not possibly do more damage to this nation.

43 posted on 05/27/2004 8:16:50 PM PDT by montag813 ("A nation can survive fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.")
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To: montag813

Hopefully Utah will send Hatch packing in 2006.


44 posted on 05/27/2004 8:17:30 PM PDT by COEXERJ145
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To: little jeremiah
Bump


What We Can Do To Help Defeat the "Gay" Agenda


Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of Links (Version 1.1)


Myth and Reality about Homosexuality--Sexual Orientation Section, Guide to Family Issues"

45 posted on 05/27/2004 8:18:32 PM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: jonatron

Hmmmm? A better resolution would be to get Hatch out of office .. along with all the other RINO's.


46 posted on 05/27/2004 8:27:23 PM PDT by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: Kackikat

I Love Jesus
http://www.ousob.com/mediafiles/i_can_only_imagine.asx listen to this


47 posted on 05/27/2004 8:29:59 PM PDT by take
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To: TOUGH STOUGH

There's something horribly wrong with Hatch. He reminds me of a preemie. I don't know, his appearance or demeanor wouldn't bother me if he was a real conservative.

You expect a Ted Kennedy or Bawney Fwank to look repellent, since their minds and hearts are repellent.

RINOS are worse than out and out liberal leftists.


48 posted on 05/27/2004 8:30:24 PM PDT by little jeremiah ("Gay Marriage" - a Weapon of Mass. Destruction!)
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To: Porterville
What cult are you a part of? One that marries homosexuals or one that has Gay leadership?

I stand for heterosexual marraige, without compromising for political expediency, as these two Mormans have done.

49 posted on 05/27/2004 8:31:42 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: microgood

Good point about the Muslims.. If you are a gay person who hates blacks,and kills one,is that a hate crime?

This whole thing gets curioser and curiouser.



50 posted on 05/27/2004 8:31:43 PM PDT by Mears
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To: little jeremiah
"RINOS are worse than out and out liberal leftists.

That's a lesson I learned years ago long before FR ever began. And people confuse them with conservatives; they're NOT.

51 posted on 05/27/2004 8:34:52 PM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH
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To: jonatron
Call me a tin-foil-hatter if you want, but I'm having my son memorize, memorize, memorize Scripture. I'm convinced that someday (in the not too distant future??) Christians will have to rely on memory or old, hoarded copies. I'm working on memorizing too...I'm just really bad with the reference. I can memorize the verse, but forget easily where to find it. sigh. It's that whole aging thing...
52 posted on 05/27/2004 8:50:42 PM PDT by kimmie7 (Are you a VETERAN voting for Kerry? Remember: The grass is always greener over the septic tank!)
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To: SandRat
I have been of the opinion that "hate crimes" are unnecessary, there is always an underlying crime, and whatever the motivation for committing a crime should not affect whether it is a crime or not, but possibly as an aggravating factor for sentencing. We need more laws like a hole in the head, with the exception of a law defining Islam as a cult (subject to RICO organized crime)and not as a religion and strip it of any religious protections it hides behind....It promotes violence against nonmembers, why is it allowed tax exemptions? Enough of this PC crap.
53 posted on 05/27/2004 8:56:11 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: rolling_stone

oooh, ..... can we add the ACLU, CAIR, Me.Ch.A., La Raza, and all the enviro-nuttues in there too? I like the way you think.


54 posted on 05/27/2004 8:59:30 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: tahiti

GOP revolution on its last legs

May 27, 2004

BY ROBERT NOVAK SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST





Dr. Tom Coburn, the plainspoken obstetrician from Muskogee, Okla., was back in Washington briefly last week. Republican senators greeted him with mixed emotions. He is their best hope for keeping an Oklahoma seat Republican in the closely divided Senate. The bad news is, he would be as prickly as he was during his six years in the House (1995-2000).



Coburn's problem is that he takes seriously the professed Republican agenda: limited government, entitlement reform and anti-abortion advocacy. He was a rare sincere GOP supporter of term limits, leaving the House after three terms as he promised to do. The result is scant support for Coburn from the Republican establishment.

That situation suggests the current realignment cycle in American politics is nearing an end after 36 years, with the Republican Party displaying symptoms of a nervous breakdown. The party's leadership, from President Bush on down, went out of its way to push the undependable Republican Sen. Arlen Specter to victory against a staunch conservative in the Pennsylvania primary because he was considered a stronger general election candidate. In contrast, dependably conservative Coburn gets no establishment support in the contested Oklahoma primary, though he is the best bet in November.

The Oklahoma Senate seat was safely Republican until Sen. Don Nickles surprised everybody by not seeking re-election. Nickles, Sen. James Inhofe and the state party apparatus got behind former Oklahoma City Mayor Kirk Humphreys. Conservative Republican Rep. Ernest Istook wanted to run but was squeezed out. The only problem was that Humphreys looked like a loser against Rep. Brad Carson, a clever Democrat who votes with the liberals two-thirds of the time but sounds like a moderate in Oklahoma.

With a Democratic victory in sight, Coburn on March 1 ended his retirement from politics. Without financing or endorsements, he had a 12-point lead over Humphreys and was running even with Carson, according to the Tulsa World's poll (taken March 26-April 5). Instead of generating support, those numbers intensified the establishment's determination to keep Coburn in Muskogee. Instead of raising money for him, the Republican lobbyist community whispered that Coburn was not solidly for Bush.

All this dates back a decade when Coburn came to Washington as a foot soldier in the Gingrich Revolution. By July 1997, Coburn had concluded that Speaker Newt Gingrich was no revolutionary. He was a leader in the unsuccessful coup attempt to replace Gingrich with then-Rep. Bill Paxon, now the only big-time Washington lobbyist who supports Coburn.

Coburn in the Senate can be expected to act much as he did in the House, when he constantly harassed the appropriators for spending the budget surplus. He would not follow the accepted freshman senator's model of spending his first two years listening and waiting. From day one, he would join John McCain in upbraiding colleagues over their insatiable appetite for pork. He would push immediately for Social Security and Medicare reform. He would make clear his unhappiness over the way the Department of Health and Human Services has been run under Republican management led by Secretary Tommy Thompson.

Coburn was so uncongenial to the go-along, get-along mood that characterized the Republican majority in the House that a conflict-of-interest complaint was filed against him because he went back to Muskogee every week to deliver babies. If he had to choose, he declared, he would give up Congress -- and the complaint was dropped. In his current campaign, Coburn spends two days a week practicing medicine.

In announcing his candidacy, Coburn took dead aim at professional politicians: ''I believe we have a deficit of moral courage in the United States Congress. We have many learned individuals who know what is right but have not the courage to stand against the moral corruption that is now attempting to undermine our republic.'' Tom Coburn is not running to be the most popular senator.




55 posted on 05/27/2004 9:09:01 PM PDT by take
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To: take

Coburn sounds excellent. Why would the article be entitled "Etc on Its Last Legs"?

Screw RINOS. I suppose they're better than regular liberals since they make the GOP the majority, but the "going along to get along" and "you vote for mine, I'll vote for yours" s**t is ruining conservatism.


56 posted on 05/27/2004 9:27:04 PM PDT by little jeremiah ("Gay Marriage" - a Weapon of Mass. Destruction!)
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To: take

What is it with the republicans penchant for suicide? IMO Hatch should perform the act in private and spare the republic the damage due to his personal mania. The good citizens of Utah really need to consider how it is that they keep electing the man who gave us Ruth Bader Ginsberg. IMO, he is an unrepentant and irreparable weapons-grade asshole and fool.


57 posted on 05/27/2004 9:34:11 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Any day you wake up is a good day.)
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To: mississippi red-neck

I would pay to see Hatch run over by a steamroller.


58 posted on 05/27/2004 9:38:33 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Any day you wake up is a good day.)
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To: take
'In announcing his candidacy, Coburn took dead aim at professional politicians: ''I believe we have a deficit of moral courage in the United States Congress. We have many learned individuals who know what is right but have not the courage to stand against the moral corruption that is now attempting to undermine our republic.'' Tom Coburn is not running to be the most popular senator. '

Bears repeating!

59 posted on 05/27/2004 9:41:06 PM PDT by Ethan_Allen (Gen. 32:24-32 'man'=Jesus http://www.preteristarchive.com/Jesus_is_Israel/index.html)
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To: Nam Vet

If only I were that noble... ;^)


60 posted on 05/28/2004 12:44:07 AM PDT by Imal (Enough of this! Let's hear more about Abu Ghraib.)
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