Posted on 05/26/2004 1:55:24 AM PDT by kattracks
That is the problem with most SACRED BOOKS!
The best solution-
Profiling. Middle eastern males of Jihadi age, facial hair a plus.
It does when the woman faces a beating or worse if she fails to wear it. There are reasons Ataturk banned the veil in Turkey --- it's about the only Islamic country where women are actually free not to wear some kind of burka. Do the Amish beat their women if they fail to wear a head covering? I doubt it.
In Turkey they are still Muslims but Ataturk saw the need to place certain controls so that things didn't end up like in Saudi or Afghanistan. Look at the reasons Ataturk had for believing the veils had to be banned. We can ignore those reasons --- but it might be wiser to look at them.
I'll believe in "moderate" Muslims when they edit the Koran. The Bible has several versions --- it's certainly time for the "moderate muslims" to take charge and make some fundamental changes in their religion if they want to keep it and live in the West. They haven't done it yet.
The prison system could do this, but in this age of political correctness and the ACLU, authorities are reluctant to do anything. I believe that the decrease in gang activity is due in part to aggressive identification of gangbangers in prison and subsequent monitoring.
America will be Muslim by the turn of this century!
It's interesting when the Nazis were at war with Europe and the USA --- we didn't allow Nazis in full garb to move over to the USA and start taking over. We didn't feel inhibited to ban certain of their practices and ideological beliefs.
Then ban the Koran --- and if some group like "Christian Identity" or some other skin-head group had literature that contained half the Jewish-hate that the Koran promotes, there would be no problem banning it.
There is a serious problem with Republicans as well as Liberals regarding belief in the level of potential danger these people pose when they feel they have sufficent numbers to inflict their will. If the new alert is right about suicide bombers that attitude might change rapidly. Right now everyone is in a wait n see mode, which is the sensible mode to be in at present. However, further immigration from Middle East nations should not be encouraged.
It would be better in the first place if we didn't bring in immigrants whose beliefs are incompatible with the Constitution.
Yep, all immigrants should be made aware that our citizenship oath requires us to honor & defend our constitution, which is the supreme 'Law of the Land'.
Therefore; -- our Constitutional oath must be acknowledged as taking legal precedence over religious belief.
After all, as the article says:
"-- As Justice Robert Jackson famously remarked, the Constitution is not a suicide pact. Neither is a nation a suicide pact."
As we must re-learn, over & over again, in every generation, -- the first necessity of a political society is an agreement on the basic principles underlying our laws and constitutions.
The Oath of Citizenship
I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen;
that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic;
that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;
that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law;
that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law;
and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God.
In acknowledgement whereof I have hereunto affixed my signature.
[In some cases, INS allows the oath to be taken without the clauses:
"… that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by law; that I will perform non-combatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by law…"]
Bump for later read.
Thank you for #70.
Many I talk to locally think I have gone off the deep end. I would lots rather be safe than sorry.
If I was in your shoes I would be tracking the Turk and his "brothers" in their every move. As I said above, better safe than sorry.
Thank You!
That's hogwash
"How is a "moderate" Muslim supposed to deal with this?"
Simple.
By realizing that this kind of stuff is what was told to soldiers when they asked about how to fight in an upcoming battle 1300 yrs ago.
Same as anyone who believes in the Bible must do so they don't go around plucking eyes out or killing everyone in a city.
This is the difference between the radical fundamentalist/terrorist and the average muslim. The terrorist uses passages from the Koran for his own warped means and gains.
Ummm.....the guy's an a$$hole. They come in all shapes, sizes, religions, nationalities, etc. I believe we have a few Freepers from Turkish decent .........
forgot the 's'.....descent
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