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The Neoconservative Persuasion
Weekly Standard ^ | 2003 | Irving Kristol

Posted on 05/24/2004 4:42:38 PM PDT by churchillbuff

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To: 21st Century Man
Of course, FDR is a hero of the Neo-Cons, so go figure

FDR was a hero of Ronald Reagan's also. Time for you to tar and feather the gipper.

381 posted on 05/25/2004 5:41:45 PM PDT by Dane
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To: MEG33
God Bless you Meg.

Our troops are on the other side of the world fighting and dying to defend out nation. They cannot be beaten on the battlefield, but as you point out, they can be beat at home.

But people like you deserve much credit yourself. You understand that danger and you are standing up and fighting for those troops. We owe then no less.

I'm proud to be serving with you in that regard.

382 posted on 05/25/2004 5:42:35 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: 21st Century Man
It's about time we stop surrendering to socialist, BIG government ideologies

I agree, especially your french socialistic appeasment to terrorism.

383 posted on 05/25/2004 5:43:12 PM PDT by Dane
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To: 21st Century Man
"Offended, hell I'd be happier than a pig in mud."

Of course you would, you and Michael Moore wallow in it all the time.

384 posted on 05/25/2004 5:43:21 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Dane

I'm not a huge fan of Reagon, he was for open borders just like Bush.

And just like Bush, he gave ALL the illegals Mexico could send us amnesty.

Was that a good thing in your book?

In fact, the only President I truly admire is George Washington.

But I aim high, REAL high.

Too bad so few presidents have aspired to follow in the Father of the Republic's footsteps.


385 posted on 05/25/2004 5:46:50 PM PDT by 21st Century Man (POLITICS: THE NEW OPIATE OF THE MASSES)
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To: 21st Century Man
I'm not a huge fan of Reagon

I am not surprised. The modern President that you seem to admire the most is jacques chirac.

386 posted on 05/25/2004 5:50:33 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Dane

But he aims high...which would explain so many self inflicted arse wounds.


387 posted on 05/25/2004 5:53:08 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

Thank you....I wish we could put aside our conservative differences and all join to support our nation in its quest for solutions to the terror threats today. Our troops deserve no less....

Iraq is a long range plan to help the ME have one country with a more just government and a place where terror doesn't have a chaotic place to train and base...The President said we are not trying to make them like Americans.


388 posted on 05/25/2004 5:53:30 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: 21st Century Man
In fact, the only President I truly admire is George Washington.

I admire more Presidents than just him, but I'll say one thing, he was the only President they had to talk into taking the job, and that speaks volumes. In any position of authority it is best to begin with a little skepticism.

That being said though, I don't think President Bush is power hungry. And while I'm sure he wants to be re-elected, if he's not he'll return to 'civilian' life happy, not besotted with the thought that he no longer wields power. Clinton is just the opposite.

His desire for the Presidency should have raised everyone's suspicion merely by dint of the fact that he'd been longing for it since he was 16. That's abnormal, and he's abnormal!

389 posted on 05/25/2004 5:53:46 PM PDT by AlbionGirl ("E meglio lavorare con qui non ti paga, e no ha parlare con qui non ti capisce!")
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To: MEG33
The President was very good last night.

And today we have reports coming out of the serious threat of a major attack in America this year...just like in Spain.

The Spanish crumbled. I know most of America is far better then that.

390 posted on 05/25/2004 5:55:44 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: AlbionGirl

Kerry has had his eye on the prize almost as long as Clinton did...scary.


391 posted on 05/25/2004 5:56:29 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: CWOJackson

I still believe in the ability of Americans to face the danger and not surrender to it.


392 posted on 05/25/2004 5:57:57 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: MEG33

You know, for the longest time, I couldn't quite work up a healthy dislike for Kerry, probably in part because he did serve his Country, and that means a lot to me, even if I'm at odds with nearly all his views. But, his conduct since just before winning the primaries and to date is shocking in its baseness. I think I'm starting to dislike him as much as I did clinton, and that's saying something!


393 posted on 05/25/2004 6:00:33 PM PDT by AlbionGirl ("E meglio lavorare con qui non ti paga, e no ha parlare con qui non ti capisce!")
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To: MEG33
The wife and I were in Malaga, Spain not long after the bombings. Most people don't realize that the new government won by a slim margin. And despite the european polls some like to post here, the people in Spain are basically 60-40 split.

The 60 pretty much represent the cities, the intellectuals...the liberals. The 40 represent the common people, including those in Malaga who came up to us to apologize...it also represents the Spanish military troops who cried when they found out they were being withdrawn.

Fortunately for us, I think the split is more like 70-30. The anti-war crowd are loud but they really don't speak for America. When push comes to shove Conservative Americans and the run of the mill every day Democrats do what's necessary to win.

394 posted on 05/25/2004 6:02:48 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: AlbionGirl

Have you seen his testimony before the Congressional committee in 71 and what his fellow swift boat commanders have said? The Winter Soldier.com site is a treasure trove of info!


395 posted on 05/25/2004 6:16:35 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: CWOJackson; churchillbuff
Gotta log off for the night.

Do you want to start a pool of when chamberlainbuff posts his next fifth column screed on FR?

I'll take 1:00 AM Eastern.

396 posted on 05/25/2004 6:29:23 PM PDT by Dane
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To: churchillbuff
One month does not make every month. I believe we are headed for about 60 or so this month. All of us in the military knew these would be tougher months as we head toward June 30. Those against the US are desperate and pulling out all stops, but they are still losing.

What is amazing, and not reported in the US press, is that Pres Bush is supported by more Iraqis than Americans. Very strange.

We have become a country that demands perfection and very short wars. Totally afraid to take any risks. I shudder to think of what Roosevelt would have been faced with in WWII. A year after Pearl Harbor, we had our lunch handed to us in North Africa. I am so glad Americans did not panic then and force the President to withdraw and give into the Nazis.

Since 1898, the average time required to affect post-conflict operations following a war that we won has been 4+years. We are now at 1 year, yet too many "conservations" are panicking because of leftist news reporting and Michael Moore types.

I choose to stay with Bush rather than Michael Moore. After the election, we can argue about better ways to take out terrorists if you like, but until then all the carping is only helping Kerry, and more importantly to me, destroying the moral of our troops.
397 posted on 05/25/2004 6:30:32 PM PDT by Proud Legions
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To: Dane

It's hard to tell, as globally, leftist papers with anti-war screeds go to press at all hours of the day and night.


398 posted on 05/25/2004 6:31:08 PM PDT by Petronski (They could choose between shame and war: Some chose shame, but got war anyway.)
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To: Howlin
I am sick of people like you who are doing every single thing you can 24/7 to make sure John Kerry wins in November.

Ditto Howlin.

399 posted on 05/25/2004 6:32:14 PM PDT by Petronski (They could choose between shame and war: Some chose shame, but got war anyway.)
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To: Proud Legions

conservations=conservatives


400 posted on 05/25/2004 6:32:55 PM PDT by Proud Legions
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