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Bush Slip in Polls Could Tip Congress to Democrats
Associated Press ^ | May 23, 2004

Posted on 05/23/2004 1:22:17 PM PDT by Aetius

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Okay, yes I know the election is months away. Furthermore, I haven't been following the polls in the competetive races. But....

How can the GOP only have a clear advantage in just Georgia, while floundering in NC, SC, and Louisiana?

And someone please explain South Dakota to me. This isn't NY or California where overall liberal states elect several Republicans to the House from less-liberal districts; South Dakota has one district! The same people who voted overwhelmingly for Bush will send this Stephanie Herseth to the House. Who doubts that she will turn out to be as liberal as Daschle? Hell, she'll probably be in the Senate some day just like Daschle.

I hate to sound so pessimistic at such a premature stage, but I just have a bad feeling that Bush's decision to go to war in Iraq will not only cost him the Presidency, but will also throw the House into a virtual tie and give the Senate back to the Democrats, where they will put into place every Ginsberg/Breyer type that Kerry nominates.

I live in the South. I saw John Edwards win election in 1998. Trust me, I know how Dems work in the South. They talk like a moderate, while they either avoid or mislead when it comes to their posistion on social issues. Then once in office they vote against the conservative social values of their constituents. In other words, Bush may very well be responsible for electing a half dozen new John Edwards' to the Senate.

1 posted on 05/23/2004 1:22:17 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: Aetius

You forgot to preface the title of this article with "Liberals hoping that..."


2 posted on 05/23/2004 1:24:08 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Aetius

I think this article is just plain wishful thinking.


4 posted on 05/23/2004 1:27:43 PM PDT by plushaye
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To: Aetius
In terms of the senate races, it is my understanding that in the South many of them don't have a primary candidate yet. Once that is sorted out, you'll see some relevant numbers. I was disappointed in the Burr/Bowles number in NC, but I think the SC seat is safe, and probably the FL senate seat is safe. If the Louisiana guy wins enough to avoid a runoff, he's safe. If there is a runoff, he could be in trouble, as there is a vote-splitting candidate there.

As for the House, the Dems are absolutely in denial. In the first place, redistricting has already added a slew of new GOP seats. Yes, there are some retirements (natural ebb and flow). But I've been hearing since 1994 about how the GOP "could lose" the House, and we have about as many seats now as we did then.

I do think that the GREAT recruitment job Bush/Rove did in 2002 is having an effect now, in that it siphoned off a lot of candidates and there are no "names" or "stars" to run in places like NV, MT, or FL.

5 posted on 05/23/2004 1:28:10 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news.)
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To: Aetius

Yep, wishful thinking from the left. But Bush does need to get his act in gear. He has let the media beat him up for months with little response.


6 posted on 05/23/2004 1:30:33 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right

Oh, and let me add that so far MOST of the House members retiring are the infamous "moderates" who are shut out of power. So it's not too much of a loss.


7 posted on 05/23/2004 1:32:12 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news.)
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To: Aetius
Time to break out the Duct Tape! The End is Near and the Democrats will sweep the 2004 Elections winning every House seat, Senate seat and the White House!

Please do not Panic!!!

The only solution is to stop reading the Election speculation from CNN, AP and CBS.

9 posted on 05/23/2004 1:35:10 PM PDT by pete anderson
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To: Aetius
What a Difference a Year Makes

Wait'll you see the difference the next five months make.

The Republicans' secret weapon is the Democrats' candidate. You wait until the mainstream start paying attention, and get a good close look at John Kerry!

10 posted on 05/23/2004 1:38:13 PM PDT by prion
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To: LS

As a North Carolinian, the Burr number is disappointing to me as well. But I am not worried too much about that one yet because of name recognition. Bowles lost a heated and prominent race to Elizabeth Dole in 2002, so his name is well known. Also, many polls suggested he might pull off an upset, but ultimately Dole won easily. They are both vulnerable on the NAFTA issue that may have cost thousands of textile jobs in the state as Burr has voted for free trade while Bowles was with Clinton when he signed them all into law.

Maybe this is the case in SC as well as Tanenbaum has won statewide office, but so has one of the potential Republicans. I forget his name, but he was Governor from 94-98 and lost largely because of the lottery issue. Also, I think Linday Graham was thought to be in a closer race than what actually materialized on election day.

Nevada is a disappointment because Reid won by a hair last time, so he would have been vulnerable. But the GOP did need a star candidate to make up for what has most likely been demographic changes in favor of the Dems.

I just think the Dems have an economic message that for many in the South trumps their conservative views on social issues. That is how we ended up with Edwards. That and an incredibly inept campaign by Lauch Faircloth.


11 posted on 05/23/2004 1:40:08 PM PDT by Aetius
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And all should be prefaced with "according to a report in the LA Times"

Like the Chris Mathews Show today, with Howard Fineman, Gloria Borgia, NBC White House reporterette O'Donnell, and Tucker Carlson, it's gloom and doom for Bush. Which emboldens Nancy Pelosis to go off on a rant, which spawns more negative reports.

It's a never-ending cycle, and it's the democrat strategy to browbeat the electorate into surrender. Why vote, why fight, why bother, all is lost. SUCKERS!!!

Nary a mention in this article about Kerry's missteps, about the booming economy, about Bush sticking to his guns on the turn-over date. You wanna fall for the cataclysmic predictions of the left, go for it, but remind yourself in November just how easily you folded your tent when the going got tough.

12 posted on 05/23/2004 1:40:23 PM PDT by YaYa123 (@That's My Story, And I'm Sticking To It.com)
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To: Aetius
We could impeach Bush and Cheney for waging an unconstitutional war -- which was an impeachable offense for 150 years of this nation's history. Then President Denny Hastert could give the Neocons their pink slips and turn the country around before election day.

But no, just like Factless Leader, we do not admit to mistakes . . . .

14 posted on 05/23/2004 1:49:38 PM PDT by JoeSchem
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To: jimbo123

Just when the dims thought it was all going their way ...

I caught John Loftus on FoxNews today, 5/21/05, and here is a summary of what he said.

Here is how the nuclear bomb making network divided the tasks up ...
N. Korea --- the nuke material
Pakistan --- via Kahn network the centrifuges and other machines
Libya --- the hollowed out mountain facilities
Iraq --- the money and the nuclear scientists

Loftus said the British had wire intercepts from N. Korea that said if we went into Iraq we would find it all out and the countries involved would be in big trouble.

Loftus said we were developing a nuclear bunker buster bomb to try and take out the mountain facility in Libya.

Loftus summed up by saying the network would have produced a single 'Islamic' nuclear bomb by now, which would then be used to blackmail the west.

Note how no one in the partisan media is connecting the dots back to Iraq. But it is curious that Libya coughed up soon after Baghdad fell.

Talk about DOTS.

more links ...
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/23/international/asia/23NUKE.html
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/international/AP-Nuclear-Agency-North-Korea.html
http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/news/news-korea-libya-report.html

I wonder when Bush is going to drop this on the dims head?


15 posted on 05/23/2004 1:54:37 PM PDT by snooker (John Flipping Kerry, the enemy's choice in Vietnam, the enemy's choice in Iraq.)
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To: JoeSchem

Who do YOU think should be POTUS?

Don't be gutless, answer the question.


16 posted on 05/23/2004 1:56:58 PM PDT by AmericaUnited (It's time someone says the emperor has no clothes.)
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To: Aetius
The liberal media is full of crap. They've been pounding 24/7 on Bush and the war effort with their anti-war, anti-America, anti-Republican propaganda for over a year. No wonder his poll numbers are down. Some of the people are responding to the constant pounding, but no matter how much they want to turn Iraq into another Vietnam, it's not gonna happen.

The fact is, the war has already been won. It may be a complete surprise to the Democrat media and all of the leftists that were praying for disaster (does the left actually pray?) but we are victorious in Iraq. Iraq has been liberated. The brutal dictator is awaiting trial. His army and his party have been completely destroyed. The people are free and are about to install a democratic government.

All of America, in fact all of the world should be cheering. France, Germany, Russia, the UN, et al, are scumbags and the full brunt of that scandal has not yet hit the news.

And despite the liberal media's attempts to torpedo the economy, it's not happening. Thanks to Bush's tax cuts and the Fed's interest rate cuts, the economy is on an upswing and could be booming before the elections.

Bush will be fine. The Republicans will continue building their majority in both houses of Congress and in state and local governments as well, including in California!

Liberalism is a complete failure. Kerry/Kennedy/Clinton and their asinine anti-American Democrat Party are going down in flames.

Go Bush!!

17 posted on 05/23/2004 1:59:16 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: snooker

If Bush looses, it will be because the entire mainstream news media adn the hollywood enterainment crowd has campaigned against him. Not even right wing radio can overcome that.


18 posted on 05/23/2004 1:59:20 PM PDT by umgud (speaking strictly as an infidel,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,)
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To: Peach; Howlin

some links for you to file in my post #15

Looks like the nuclear bomb was closer than the partisan media would like us to know about.


19 posted on 05/23/2004 2:00:09 PM PDT by snooker (John Flipping Kerry, the enemy's choice in Vietnam, the enemy's choice in Iraq.)
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To: QuokkaPerth
I cant recall a poll that ever showed public preference for a GOP congress over a DEM one.

Thats a great point. Its simply shows the bias of the media reporting on it.

However, Bush's campaign has been abolutely awful, just awful so far. The left and the media have attacked him for 9 straight months and Bush has either not answered them or stood by looking paralyzed. Only twice in the last 9 months has he looked good - when we caught Saddam in November and when he ran ads a couple of months ago. I fully expect his speech tomorrow to be another dud, where he capitulates and apoligizes when he just needs to be Bush.

20 posted on 05/23/2004 2:00:17 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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