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ATF Agents Arrest 14 in Multistate Operation(Gestapo Alert!)
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| May 21, 2004
Posted on 05/22/2004 11:31:33 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: Travis McGee
. . . every illegal alien in America would be arrest, deported, or shot in a month.
Of course, crossing a border without a visa is in the vast majority of cases a misdemeanor offense. Seeing that these misdemeanors are being met with vigilante felonious assault and kidnapping, perhaps the border-crossers ought to be armed in order to protect their unalienable rights.
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posted on
05/23/2004 10:29:15 AM PDT
by
Cultural Jihad
(Rising waves, what motive is behind your impulse? The desire to reach upwards.)
To: El Gato
What part of "right of the people" and "shall not be infringed" is so hard to understand?
"You wait here. I'll tell the warden you're demanding your rifle back."
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posted on
05/23/2004 10:31:10 AM PDT
by
Cultural Jihad
(Rising waves, what motive is behind your impulse? The desire to reach upwards.)
To: Cultural Jihad
Non-citizen criminal invaders have no 2nd amd rights at all. Go troll elsewhere, we have your rap down pat.
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posted on
05/23/2004 10:33:27 AM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: Travis McGee
So non-citizen criminal invaders (aka misdemeanor economic refugees) have no God-given unalienable right to self-defense, eh? That is what the felonious criminal yahoos thought before they assaulted unarmed women and children and were subsequently thrown in jail for their criminal deeds.
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posted on
05/23/2004 10:36:50 AM PDT
by
Cultural Jihad
(Rising waves, what motive is behind your impulse? The desire to reach upwards.)
To: jnarcus
It is really rather simple....If you are a violent felon ( one of the bad guys) you may not own body armor...doesn't matter where you live The point is that such a law, if if affects felons who have served their time, including any probationary time, and most especially if the prohibition was not an explicit part the sentence, is a minimum a violation of due process, and arguably of the second amendment as well. But that aside, what is the point? Some former felons, even violent ones (and that can cover way more territory than one might think), may have enemies who want to kill them. If they are going to go back to their old ways, lack of a vest wouldn't stop them. Furthermore the law wouldn't stop them from getting a vest any more than it would stop them from getting a gun if they were so inclined. After all if armed robbery, murder or rape is on ones agenda, and the penalties for second (or additional) offenses of those doesn't deter, the additional penalty for having a gun or a vest are not likely to figure into the calculations much at all.
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posted on
05/23/2004 10:44:35 AM PDT
by
El Gato
(Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
To: Travis McGee
Non-citizen criminal invaders have no 2nd amd rights at all.
Praise be the INS, from whom all Constitutional rights flow!
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posted on
05/23/2004 10:45:51 AM PDT
by
Cultural Jihad
(Rising waves, what motive is behind your impulse? The desire to reach upwards.)
To: Cultural Jihad
"You wait here. I'll tell the warden you're demanding your rifle back."Your pitiful analogy doesn't hold water. We are talking about people who have gotten out of prison and have completed their sentences, not as your illustration would have it, people still under sentence.
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posted on
05/23/2004 10:48:52 AM PDT
by
El Gato
(Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
To: El Gato; Travis McGee
TMG nailed it, CJ is the senior troll around here (trolling since '98), and probably holds the record for having the most conservatives banned. Don't fall into his troll trap!
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posted on
05/23/2004 11:41:36 AM PDT
by
TERMINATTOR
("In my opinion, the M1 Rifle is the greatest battle implement ever devised." -General Patton)
To: TERMINATTOR; Travis McGee; El Gato
Cultural Jihad is a her I think.
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posted on
05/23/2004 12:17:11 PM PDT
by
wardaddy
(This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
To: jnarcus
It is really rather simple....If you are a violent felon ( one of the bad guys) you may not own body armor...
Does merely restating the law constitute a justification for the law in your county? The only people I know who justify laws in that manner are Democrats and bad cops.
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posted on
05/23/2004 12:28:27 PM PDT
by
Atlas Sneezed
(Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
To: wardaddy
As tempting as it is, I'll refrain from comment.
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posted on
05/23/2004 12:34:58 PM PDT
by
TERMINATTOR
("In my opinion, the M1 Rifle is the greatest battle implement ever devised." -General Patton)
To: TERMINATTOR
LOL....but careful, she is a leader of the PC hall monitor posse.
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posted on
05/23/2004 12:51:41 PM PDT
by
wardaddy
(This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
To: SteveH
the year-long investigation Meanwhile, in the same year, 50,000 guns exhange hands in Los Angeles County alone, over a bag of weed, some crack, and a couple of fourties.
Somebody tell me how I can get paid so much to accomplish so little. Screw the lottery, this is where the EZ-bucks are.
To: jnarcus
you may not own body armor...doesn't matter where you live. If they're serious about preventing deaths in areas like East PA, they ought to issue body armour while handing out the free federal cheese.
To: SteveH
Torres praised the Reno Police Department, Washoe County Sheriff's Department, the Nevada Highway Patrol, California Highway Patrol, the West Sacramento Police Department and the California Department of Justice for assisting ATF in this investigation. I find it interesting that so many state legislators and members of Congress feel that local law enforcement agencies shouldn't assist federal immigration agents in locating and arresting illegal aliens because they say immigration is solely a federal matter. And yet these same lawmakers seem to have no problem with local law enforcement agencies assisting the ATF, a federal agency, in a case involving federal firearms violations.
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posted on
05/23/2004 1:07:23 PM PDT
by
usadave
To: Cultural Jihad
It is always good news for law-abiding gun-owners to see these thuggish gun criminals being prosecuted.How would you know?
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posted on
05/23/2004 1:11:51 PM PDT
by
jmc813
(Help save a life - www.marrow.org)
To: GLSchnJR
Get yer facts straight: Randy Weaver's family, friend and also a federal agent were killed during Bushie the First's reign(Aug 1992), not Clintoon.
To: TERMINATTOR
One look at CJ's page suggests something akin to schizophrenia, with a healthy does of anti-liberty. Bushbot, JBT, but much more bizarre.
Creepy.
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posted on
05/23/2004 3:00:20 PM PDT
by
Atlas Sneezed
(Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
To: SteveH
Ah yes... Ted Kennedy comparing US Soldiers to Saddam's Torturers... appalling. Buchananites comparing the ATF to the Gestapo... damn straight. What I hate most about liberals is their hypocracy. Sad to see it alive and well here on FR.
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posted on
05/23/2004 3:05:29 PM PDT
by
bootyist-monk
(<--------------------- Republican Attack Machine)
To: Beelzebubba
Know we have a good idea what hell is like. I don't know about you, but I've been "scared straight"! ;^)
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posted on
05/23/2004 3:16:41 PM PDT
by
TERMINATTOR
("In my opinion, the M1 Rifle is the greatest battle implement ever devised." -General Patton)
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