Posted on 05/22/2004 11:31:33 PM PDT by SteveH
Similar thread here but worth repeating.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1140541/posts
I guess now that the border problem is all fixed and since we are no longer at risk of attack from terrorists the feds have more time to do this kind of thing.
Oh God!!!!!!!!!!!!.....the horror!
I realize the Gestapo did confiscate weapons that were illegal under the Third Reich, but those people caught were sent to concentration/labor camps or killed on the spot. Please don't compare US law enforcement agencies to the murderous Gestapo who rounded up innocents for mass murder as a matter of policy. (Yes Waco was a mass murder of civilians, but done due to poor leadership rather than standing policy). Remember how angry we get as conservatives when some left wing radical calls us Nazis due to our beliefs.
GWB pumped up the federal government with our money. They've got to do something with it. The article mentions 400 firearms. My guess is it cost about $100,000 per firearm.
What you seem to have missed in the body of the story is the guy from East Palo Alto...now that is gang city...his name is rather Muslim sounding and he had body armor (as aviolent felon no less) as well as some nasty guns. This ain't the Gestapo....more likely it is a crack down on folks who may be working with some rather unsavory groups from the mIddle East
Note that during these years under President Bush that the number of DEA/BATF no knock warrant "hits" has gone down to nearly zero? Under Clinton, they were almost monthly if not more.
Gestapo is a bit over the top, don't you think?
So let me get this straight.
You can sit there and make an honest comparison of a US law enforcement agency, however poorly led, with congressional oversight in a democratically elected country to a secret police run by Heinrich Himmler sworn by duty to liquidate Jews and other 'undesirable' human beings?
Words mean things, and when someone sees this kind of stupid comparison being offered on FR our reputation suffers.
you forgot, this is FR...
Cops killed by criminals: heros
all others: jackbooted nazi thugs.
I know all about East Palo Alto. It's mostly Hispanic now, followed by Blacks. I'm not into just pre-judging people by their names (or ethnicity, or any other superficial trait). People have a right to self defense, period. Take away their natural right to self-defense, and you take away their humanity. I know many on FR will disagree, but IMHO FR has become (over?)populated with people who aren't so much conservative as they are reactionaries. And the title was dragged over verbatim from how it is posted at that other conservative EBB...
so would "gestapo" be in the headline if the story was
Laquan J. Abdulrahim arrested in firearms sting.
My guess is the headline would be "ATF Agents Arrest 14 in Multistate Operation(Religion of peace Alert!)"
WACO was set in motion under Bush I.
I think it's open, especially given that it's the ATF. See #11.
Amen.
Just be a man and say you were wrong and not dig yourself into a deeper hole of ignorance.
EPA is mostly hispanic, then islanders, then blacks now. I try not to drive through after dark since they like to shoot at passing cars... Or from passing cars. Still you gotta get off/to the bridge sometimes.
It seems you have failed to remember Waco and Ruby Ridge where Clinton trying to appease his tree hugging friends clearly went over the line! People have the right to bear arms but not have banned or unregistered weapons. As for passing judgement because of a name! We earned that right 9/11/01. These people were clearly not upstanding people or we would not even be discussing this. Janet Reno violated more civil rights than anyone in recent history yet you fail to mention this.
Any gun dealer who sells to a person with an Islamic name should be arrested.
(And, please, don't nobody respond with a "But, Timothy McVeigh wasn't Islamic..." response. Those were different times.)
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