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(Homosexual) Activists Blast President Bush for Hypocrisy
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 5/18/04 | Susan Jones

Posted on 05/18/2004 5:20:47 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: reasonseeker

That is a irrelevant. Divorce is just as much a part of marriage even before christianity. Even the ancient code of hamurabi had provisions for divorce.

The issue for divorce is that the same reasoned people who created no-fault have developed same sex marriage. In fact the mass opinion derives much of its "logic" from the ABA's model divorce code.

The solution in this environment is not to do away with no fault, but to do away with community property state laws and make everything equitable distribution. As part of the equity, make fault an issue.

IOW legally the divorce itself is granted without fault. HOWEVER the distribution of property and children (who are property) is divided based on fault. Thus if he/she has an affair, that will affect the equities in how property is distributed and custody granted.

Fianlly in the old model code there was a provision which a judge could order the parties to three months of marriage counseling. Most states have mindlessly included that provision in their state codes. There is nothing stopping judges from ordering that NOW with no change in law. (if one marriage is saved....)

If you want to make a useful suggestion on the divorce issue, then perhaps a non-ABA model divorce code should be developed. Legislatures right now have ONLY the ABA (commie) code to work from.


21 posted on 05/18/2004 10:27:39 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: little jeremiah; ArGee
Bump


What We Can Do To Help Defeat the "Gay" Agenda


Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of Links (Version 1.1)


Myth and Reality about Homosexuality--Sexual Orientation Section, Guide to Family Issues"

22 posted on 05/18/2004 10:29:47 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: kattracks; ArGee; Travis McGee; lentulusgracchus; Bryan

Matt Foreman, executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, blasted President Bush on Monday, after Bush said, "the sacred institution of marriage should not be redefined by a few activist judges."


The brown shirts of the Gay Gestapo speak again:

Homosexual leader vows to 'torture' opponents

The head of a national homosexual organization is vowing to politically "punish," "terrify" and "torture" activists who oppose his organization's agenda on "gay" rights – which he says would give him "endless satisfaction."

Matt Foreman, executive director of the National Gay & Lesbian Task Force in Washington, D.C., made the comments in yesterday's edition of Between the Lines, a Detroit area homosexual newsmagazine, the American Family Association of Michigan points out.

In addition to declaring his desire for retribution against "local legislators and leaders" who oppose the homosexual agenda, Foreman expressed a goal beyond securing legal same-sex marriage, that is gaining other means besides marriage by which homosexuals could access public and private financial benefits.

Foreman told the interviewer of his plans to go after his opponents.

"I'm … interested in going after, politically, local legislators and leaders that have launched these anti-gay initiatives," he explained. "'We beat you, now we're gonna go back and we're going to affirmatively punish you' – people who launch this stuff, so that they understand not only that they're not going to win, but that there are consequences to it.

"We would set up a [political action committee] and go in and terrify them with a credible challenge. ... So we go in, for a modest investment of money and torture these people, which would give me endless satisfaction. And the word would go out very quickly, 'You know what, this really isn't worth it...'"


23 posted on 05/18/2004 10:44:36 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: expat_panama
"Sans cojones" is right. I just can't help but thinking that even if we changed the constitution, those activist judges would find that the change itself was 'unconstitutional'.

If I had been in the Mass Legislature, I would have sponsored a resolution stating that the SJC was attempting to supplant the legislature by writing a law and demand they revisit their opinion. If I had been Governor, I would have issued an executive order to ignore the ruling and not issue any kind of paper recognizing a homosexual relationship. The two acts togther should constitute a reasonable check-n-balance against the court, forcing the court to issue a new ruling.

But I am neither, nor do I live in Mass.

Shalom.

24 posted on 05/18/2004 10:45:59 AM PDT by ArGee (Family diversity = the death of modern civilization)
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To: EdReform

One more social fault line, which will erupt at some point into CW2.


25 posted on 05/18/2004 12:37:08 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: *Homosexual Agenda; EdReform; scripter; GrandMoM; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; ...
Homosexual Agenda Ping - I can't make much comment today, too many articles due to:

"Gay" Marriage - A Weapon of Mass. Destruction

Let me know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.

26 posted on 05/18/2004 2:25:15 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Moral decay leads to anarchy which leads to totalitarianism.)
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To: Travis McGee
Agreed.

They've pushed it far enough. If they continue to push toward lowering the age of consent, it WILL get ugly - VERY ugly.

27 posted on 05/18/2004 3:54:31 PM PDT by EdReform
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To: little jeremiah

If I'm not on your list, can you put me on it? THanks.


28 posted on 05/18/2004 4:01:40 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: longtermmemmory
The media is having a video blackout of homosexuals kissing in the courthouse.

I noticed the media downplay, also.

29 posted on 05/18/2004 6:11:32 PM PDT by tuesday afternoon (Honour thy father and thy mother)
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To: Puppage
The Hershey Highway???????

foreverfree

30 posted on 05/18/2004 6:20:21 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: Travis McGee

I'll check, and if you're not on it, you will be soon!

Thanks -


31 posted on 05/18/2004 6:45:25 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Moral decay leads to anarchy which leads to totalitarianism.)
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To: little jeremiah

Thanks and a bump.


32 posted on 05/18/2004 9:45:21 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: longtermmemmory
It should also be noted that this is not a negative ban on homosexuals it is an affirmative statment of what marriage is defined.

The transaction is, the people wanting a change in the institution of marriage are required to argue their case to the satisfaction of the Legislature, or of the People. They didn't do that -- they cheated.

Now they want to play stare decisis, and they want us to stand around with our hands in our pockets while they play out their Article IV endgame on the other 49 States.

Being gentlemanly about letting someone rob you of your dignity and your society of its self-respect isn't what the Senate needs to do here.

The gay cabal, working with a corruptly partisan court (and who knows, maybe there was a little blackmail involved? -- there was when the homosexuals rolled the American Psychiatric Association; I'd look for it again here), induced that court to betray the People of Massachusetts and violate their compact with the rest of the Union, by introducing rejected and abominated customs under the Full Faith and Credit Clause to all fifty States. Like the Nullification Crisis, what is wanted here is for the United States Government to open a fresh can of whipass on the State of Massachusetts.

33 posted on 05/19/2004 1:13:31 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: longtermmemmory
This is an albatross we need to hang around the neck of every little and big democrat candidate this season.

Worse problem: the Log Cabins have just a huge "in" with the Bush Administration. Mary Matalin is Bush's point man on gay issues since 2000, when Bush attended a Log Cabin-sponsored affair to tell them how much he respected them and would help them with their drive to.......

.......this magic moment.

34 posted on 05/19/2004 1:18:49 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: Puppage

Any conservative need a reason to support President Bush?


35 posted on 05/23/2004 5:58:50 AM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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