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Tonight's BIG question: When will the first married same-sex couple file for fivorce?
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Posted on 05/17/2004 7:42:05 PM PDT by ken5050

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Aside from creating a near lifetime full-employment bill for constitutional lawyers and scholars, and guaranteeing multitudes of legislation at the state level, what can we deduce from the Massachussets mess?

It appears that the various legal proceedings at both federal, and multiple state jurisdictions, will take years to be resolved.

Now, does anyone honestly believe that ALL, every single one of these happy couples will stay together? Nah...Indeed, given the instant "celebrity" culture we live in, there will probably be a certain cachet, if not notoriety, but at leats 15 minutes of fame, to being the first married gay couple to get file for divorce. Oprah will send the limo. Dr. Phil will send the Gulfstream. Leno and Letterman will rejoice. Especially, if it's a contested, bitter divorce ( and let's be honest, ALL divorces are bitter to some extent..

And suppose this couple has adopted , or had, a child. Even better, or worse, depending on your point of view.

Now, happily, I'm not a lawyer, nor married to one. None of my kids are lawyers, nor married to any, and I don't even play one on TV. But, I've been in some interesting hypothetical conversations the past few weeks with several legal types; all of whom say that the attempt to "unwind" a same sex marriage could come a-cropper to all concerned, if it turns out later on that there really wasn't a marriage, in the legal sense. Suppose that a divorce settlement , including property division, and alimony, support and maintainance payments are decreed under current state matrimonial court guidlines; then, it turns out, a few years later, there really wasn't a marriage at all. Well, the partner who got the short end of the stick is going to break all sorts of records rushing back into court to vacate the divorce decree.

And for those happy couples who aren't residents of Massachusets but have flocked there to get married, before returning to the other 49 states to demand that their unions be recognized; well, don't even think about breaking up. The old quickie "Reno" type divorce, popularized years ago before the advent of no-fault divorce in most states, only applies in "uncontested" divorce actions... Something to thnk about.

Oh yeah, BTW, what's YOUR best guess as to how soon before the first divorce petition is filed? My guess, hopefully, is about three days before the Democratic convention starts in Boston.

1 posted on 05/17/2004 7:42:13 PM PDT by ken5050
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To: ken5050

yep--the divorces should be something to see. "Pre-Nups", what's that?


2 posted on 05/17/2004 7:44:48 PM PDT by jolie560
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To: ken5050

Whoops! Correction on the spelling on the subject line please.... moderator?


3 posted on 05/17/2004 7:45:47 PM PDT by Shepster (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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To: jolie560

Gay Divorce Court TV is on the way!!


4 posted on 05/17/2004 7:47:41 PM PDT by Shepster (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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To: ken5050
If this happens, they could do a remake of The Gay Divorcee.
5 posted on 05/17/2004 7:47:44 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: Shepster; Admin Moderator

THanks, didn't realize it..


6 posted on 05/17/2004 7:47:50 PM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to propagate her genes.....any volunteers?)
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To: jolie560
about 3 months ... TOPS.

My over/under day 8/1/2004

7 posted on 05/17/2004 7:49:05 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Resolve to perform what you must; perform without fail that what you resolve.)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; Howlin

Yoo hoo!!


8 posted on 05/17/2004 7:50:09 PM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to propagate her genes.....any volunteers?)
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To: ken5050

Already happened down here in Texas. A Vermont "couple" about three weeks ago.


9 posted on 05/17/2004 7:50:38 PM PDT by ThomasPaine2000 (Peace without freedom is tyranny.)
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OH Ken I think maybe six months I be generious LOL!


10 posted on 05/17/2004 7:50:41 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("Not everybody , in it, for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: Shepster

You've never seen so much hissing, scratching, biting and kicking. And that's the guys! Fighting over the antiques and the Key West time-share.


11 posted on 05/17/2004 7:52:38 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Retrosexual Vietnam veteran against John Kerry, proud to be a "crook" and a "liar.")
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dunno... cause it'll never be reported in the mainstream media...


12 posted on 05/17/2004 7:52:44 PM PDT by fhlh (polls are silly.)
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To: ken5050

I am still waiting for two women to volunteer to marry me in a trois relationship. I'm so series that I could be hugh!


13 posted on 05/17/2004 7:53:46 PM PDT by PokeyJoe (VRWC ID NUMBER 0028943523121 MAJIC)
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To: ken5050

First, define Fivorce.


14 posted on 05/17/2004 7:54:02 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: ThomasPaine2000

YOU have to give us more info..like HOW? because Texas diesn't recogniz those?


15 posted on 05/17/2004 7:55:43 PM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to propagate her genes.....any volunteers?)
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To: ken5050

How about annulments? Failure to consumate means what?


16 posted on 05/17/2004 7:56:07 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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Please correct spellng in headline to DIVORCE..thanks


17 posted on 05/17/2004 7:56:32 PM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to propagate her genes.....any volunteers?)
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To: ken5050

I saw a study saying that in Sweden male homosexuals divorce at a rate about 150% that of heterosexuals.


18 posted on 05/17/2004 7:59:14 PM PDT by I still care
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To: PokeyJoe

YOu will ecall that when the SC threw out the Texas law, JUstice Tomas correctly predicted that this ( gay marriage) would soon happen..he also said that it wouldn't be long before the polygamists filed suit..Now, they have no press, no PC, so we can forget about them, but if THREE GAYS file suit to be allowed to mayy, well, then it's a whole new ball agme..


19 posted on 05/17/2004 7:59:28 PM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to propagate her genes.....any volunteers?)
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I say six months. They're going to do their best to try and prove everyone wrong but sooner or later it will all come crashing down.

I've always had a feeling that divorce lawyers were one of the driving forces behind faggot marriage. Talk about finding a gold mine.

20 posted on 05/17/2004 7:59:46 PM PDT by COEXERJ145
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