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Arctic Temperatures Warming Rapidly - Polar Explorer
Yahoo! News ^ | 5/17/04 | David Ljunggren - Reuters

Posted on 05/17/2004 11:54:12 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: NormsRevenge

While I don't buy into the human-induced global warming theory at all, its hard to deny that global temperatures have increased.

What I find most significant about the idea of the melting of Arctic ice is that we may have a third coast to give military consideration.


41 posted on 05/17/2004 12:31:12 PM PDT by kidd
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To: CWOJackson

Okay. A couple years ago this came up on FR and we did the experiment. An amusing evening in the FR science division.


42 posted on 05/17/2004 12:32:12 PM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: RightWhale

How was the next morning?


43 posted on 05/17/2004 12:33:10 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: NormsRevenge

drag his sled across open patches of water nine times during the 71 days he spent alone.




Hey, this guy claims he can walk on water. Hope he has pictures.


44 posted on 05/17/2004 12:33:37 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Gen. Custer wore an Arrowsmith shirt to his last property owner convention.)
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To: hermgem

Well, long range forecasts are only about averages, not details. I predict that in 2024, New York City will generally be cooler from January through March than from June through August.


45 posted on 05/17/2004 12:36:05 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Dad was my hero
The earth goes through periods of cooling and warming which does not mean that mankind is responsible for it.

I personally doubt the cause is man but it definately warmer today in NE in the winter than it was in the 50's. I don't need temperature records for that.

46 posted on 05/17/2004 12:38:11 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: CWOJackson
'BUMPKIN' aptly describes any one who claims to have been a CWO, [on icebreakers no less], and doesn't know that ice displaces its equal volume in water.

The BS tilt-O-meter lit up BIG on that one.
47 posted on 05/17/2004 12:42:15 PM PDT by tpaine (In their arrogance, a few infinitely shrewd imbeciles attempt to lay down the 'law' for all of us.)
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To: tpaine

Perhaps you shouldn't sit on it tp...


48 posted on 05/17/2004 12:44:22 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Dead Dog
I like your experiment with Rum and Coke.

Or Gin and Tonic, but I have to keep repeating it, because as the ice melts the level of liquid keeps going down...

49 posted on 05/17/2004 12:45:46 PM PDT by DrDavid
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To: CWOJackson

Sit on what? -- The picture of your foot in mouth?


50 posted on 05/17/2004 12:47:06 PM PDT by tpaine (In their arrogance, a few infinitely shrewd imbeciles attempt to lay down the 'law' for all of us.)
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To: CWOJackson
"Where is the water going?"

Thirsty fish.

BTW, this guy isn't an explorer. He's a tourist.

51 posted on 05/17/2004 12:47:13 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: CWOJackson

Lighten up just a bit, MBO.


52 posted on 05/17/2004 12:47:56 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: tpaine

Sitting on your bs meter of course...it's not the proper way to treat an instrument. You know, kind of like the way you have abused your brain.


53 posted on 05/17/2004 12:47:58 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: NormsRevenge

And the good news is, the NorthWest passage should be available year round!

I find both extremes of the global warming arguement hard to imagine. First, it's obvious that the Earth has climate changes, and that temperatures will change, regardless of what humans are doing. Second, it's difficult to imagine that 4.5 billion of us, many of us generating pollution, don't have some effect on our surroundings.


54 posted on 05/17/2004 12:48:29 PM PDT by brownsfan (I didn't leave the democratic party, the democratic party left me.)
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To: spunkets

And to think he could have been a polar bear snack.


55 posted on 05/17/2004 12:49:35 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
Tony Snow had a professor on his program this morning from the Univ. VA. He states that it is a scientific fact that most scientists agree that the temp. rise over the next 50 years will not exceed 3/4 degree F.

He also stated that this is not brought up because if this became widely known, the studiers of global warming wouldn't get any money from Congress.

56 posted on 05/17/2004 12:50:03 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: tpaine
know that ice displaces its equal volume in water.

Actually, a floating object displaces its mass in water. /nitpick

57 posted on 05/17/2004 12:51:07 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Earth first! We can mine the other planets later.)
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To: CWOJackson
When ice packs melt sea levels don't rise, for the same reason your cold drink doesn't overflow the glass when the ice cubes melt.

The snow and ice on land would need to melt and run off into the ocean to cause any rise in sea levels. I would imagine that the ice packs on the water would melt before that happened.

58 posted on 05/17/2004 12:51:59 PM PDT by ordinaryguy
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To: NormsRevenge
Do we have to see this story every spring now?

I seem to recall the "shocking news" of clear water at the North pole last year. It was trumpeted as (all together now) more proof of Global Warming. Then a few weeks later some scientists debunked the alarm by noting that the North Pole has been documented as frequently ice-free during summer months. This was not a new development, and had no bearing on Global Warming one way or the other.

Does anyone else remember that story?

59 posted on 05/17/2004 12:52:15 PM PDT by Snuffington
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To: CWOJackson

Gee, when ice cubes in your drink melt does your glass overflow?
No it doesn't. Water actually expands as it freezes (that's why ice floats). When it melts it does not add to volume of water; it was already displacing and equal amount of water.


60 posted on 05/17/2004 12:52:56 PM PDT by Little Ray (John Ffing sKerry: Just a gigolo!)
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