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Knowledge of Abuse May Go Higher Yet
The Washington Post ^ | May 16, 2004 | R. Jeffrey Smith

Posted on 05/15/2004 9:41:34 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: neverdem

Maybe I'm nutzs, but I think even the average American swing voter will look at this Abu Ghraib stuff as "yeah it was wrong, but it's not even close to what they have done to guys like Nick Berg."

I guess we'll see.


41 posted on 05/15/2004 10:54:41 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (Liberals have the inverse midas touch, everything they get a hold of turns to S&*%)
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To: Texas Eagle

Scroll down the page...


http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4988252/


42 posted on 05/15/2004 10:58:12 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Libloather
Can't wait until Big Media convicts Saddam of something.

Are you kidding? Saddam will be aquitted and elected President of Iraq.

43 posted on 05/15/2004 11:02:19 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: quidnunc

Aren't you the optimist!?


44 posted on 05/15/2004 11:08:33 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: yooper
I'm reading this as "they coated his swarthy ass with Oscar Meyer bacon...

LOL

45 posted on 05/15/2004 11:10:43 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: Mr. Mojo

We are sure soft in this country. I wonder how many 9-11s it will take to toughen us up?


46 posted on 05/15/2004 11:12:50 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: quidnunc
Bush was ahead in the polls until the Dems revealed the DUI conviction just before the election.

It seems to me that the Democrats and their media allies have this election "planned". By that I mean each week has an event designed to attach the administration up to the election. If the planned event doesn't work or is overshadowed by events, they will apply their spin to the real world. Going back a few weeks, there was the Clarke book and 60 min., The allout attack on Dr. Rice, the President's testimony with Chaney, then the Woodward Book (which flopped so they had to take it out of context). Next, Joe Wilson's book was scheduled but Prisongate has been better press. They will probably insert Michael Berg's rantings next week, and so on.

They were so confident they would consolidate their power with Gore that they miscalculated and an election actually took place -- with the DUI suprise. This time it seems they will not allow it to go to an election -- at least not to a meaningful one. You can control the press and still lose, the Democrats did that last time. This time they will try their best to disenfranchise us. I hope something can be done about it but we need some help by events and the terrorists are working very hard for their boy -- JFK.

47 posted on 05/15/2004 11:13:11 PM PDT by JimSEA ( "More Bush, Less Taxes.")
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To: MEG33
MEG33 wrote: Aren't you the optimist!?

Not anymore.

When I saw that the Nick Berg story was being presented as being Bush's fault I knew it was over.

The media can't tell us what to think, but they can tell us what to think about.

The media have decided that Bush must fall and so he shall.

when his own party largely deserts him there's no room for optimism.

48 posted on 05/15/2004 11:13:25 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: quidnunc

Do you ever see the good things in Iraq or do you purposely avoid posting about and commenting on them?..


49 posted on 05/15/2004 11:15:15 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: quidnunc
when his own party largely deserts him there's no room for optimism

I'm bookmarking this thread and we shall see in Novemeber.

It will be a great lesson to show people an example of Chicken Little syndrome.

50 posted on 05/15/2004 11:16:48 PM PDT by Dane
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To: quidnunc
When I saw that the Nick Berg story was being presented as being Bush's fault I knew it was over.

And on talk radio, people were criticizing daddy Berg for blaming Bush. Even on C-Span a majority of callers were criticizing him.

51 posted on 05/15/2004 11:19:56 PM PDT by Dane
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To: MEG33
MEG33 wrote: Do you ever see the good things in Iraq or do you purposely avoid posting about and commenting on them?..

Look, for the most part we here on FR are the choir, we don't really need to be preached to.

And as much as we like to tell ourselves otherwise, we really don't have that much influence.

What has me down in the dumps are the things I see going on in Washington and fly-over country.

Rem,ember, both LBJ and Truman decided not to seek reelection because their poll ratings indicated that they were sure losers.

Dubya's numbers dont have all that far to fall before they are down there too.

52 posted on 05/15/2004 11:21:04 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: quidnunc

You are wrong.


53 posted on 05/15/2004 11:23:48 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: TheDon

Everyone, needs to read the new book by Vince Flynn called "Memorial Day". It really puts all of this into the right perspective. Oh yeah, Rapp gets the info he needs...


54 posted on 05/15/2004 11:24:00 PM PDT by crager (I went to look for myself and if I happen to return while I'm gone tell me to wait)
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To: Admin Moderator

Did you kill a troll? Did I miss something? Dammit, I always miss these things!! AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!


55 posted on 05/15/2004 11:24:27 PM PDT by raynearhood (Hillary's last speech aroused a wonderful sense of liberalism in me... then the gas passed)
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To: Admin Moderator

Did you kill a troll? Did I miss something? Dammit, I always miss these things!! AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!


56 posted on 05/15/2004 11:24:55 PM PDT by raynearhood (Hillary's last speech aroused a wonderful sense of liberalism in me... then the gas passed)
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To: Dane
Dane wrote: (when his own party largely deserts him there's no room for optimism) I'm bookmarking this thread and we shall see in Novemeber. It will be a great lesson to show people an example of Chicken Little syndrome.

The GOP pols — and that includes those in the White House — are completely ignoring the concerns of the base.

We have to have some reason for hope and they're not willing — or able — to provide us with any.

WE need to get through to them somehow that they're losing us.

57 posted on 05/15/2004 11:26:09 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: quidnunc

We?...Since when do you think Bush is losing "us".


58 posted on 05/15/2004 11:30:00 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: quidnunc
get ready for the first Kerry administration.

Never give up.

59 posted on 05/15/2004 11:31:03 PM PDT by MarMema ("Hamtramck is going to be a pioneer city for the whole United States.")
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To: quidnunc
WE need to get through to them somehow that they're losing us.

Us? What's this us? Hey they are losing you as of 5/16/04 and IMO losing a person who makes Chicken Little look cool as a cucumber.

Take a chill pill. There are 5 and 1/2 months to go.

60 posted on 05/15/2004 11:31:26 PM PDT by Dane
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