Posted on 05/15/2004 5:39:39 PM PDT by PA didohead 4000
Which has to do with what here in PA?
We are Republicans supporting an open democrat/socialist over a covert democrat/liberal.
Both are bad, but one hides behind an "R". If politics really was war, we could shoot him as a spy or traitor.
But instead we vote for them and give them promotions and pay raises.
I have said it on these boards before: it is more important to defeat Spector than for a Republican to win. We cannot have him as chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Is that you, Governor Rendell? You forgot the 'l' in your screen name.
And you are an idiot!
That's pure idiocy. The Senate is 51-49 for God's sake.
Unbelievable.
This "ZOT" has actually taken on new relevancy. It's acutally a pretty accurate parody of the mindlessness of your position.
I have read a few of your posts and I believe that you are capable of a more thoughtful reply than you have presented here.
Please look over the argument presented for removing Specter.
They are not base on hate or animosity. They are based on the very real voting history of Arlen Specter.
He cannot be trusted to do what's right when we need him and to assume that he is an ally in any close battle is folly. He's already demonstrated that Bush cannot rely on him and if it wasn't for Bush, he wouldn't be on the fall ballot.
Don't react. Please. Read. Think. Consider the argument and then reply. And most of all, don't use the 'You gotta vote for the "R"' line, because it doesn't apply to "R"len Specter. He only wore the "R" to get elected, but he has a worse voting record than many dems.
Thanks.
Look, the Senate Judiciary is a 11-10 proposition, currently in the control of the Pubbies. I don't know of a single Bush nomination that has been stuffed in that Committee since the GOP took back control of the Senate. All it would take is Specter to either vote against the Bush nominee, or even SIGNAL his opposition to said nominee, for the nomination to be stalled in committee. To my knowledge ... no nominees have stalled in committee, and Specter has voted for cloture on every recorded vote to end the DemocRAT filibuster.
I fully understand the disappointment when Pat Toomey lost his close challenge in the primary. He's a good man, and he has a bright future. But in this political milieu, with the stakes as they are ... can we afford to have Patrick Leahy chair that committee instead of Specter? Think of the other RAT chairmen ... Kennedy, Biden, Byrd, Rockefeller, Levin ... I think you understand my concern.
Regards.
I believe, but don't have the names at my fingertips, that you are wrong in that first assertion. IIRC, he has blocked 2 candidates already. He believes that anti abortion people are extremists. He has fought against pro life positions his entire career. He voted for an amendment to gut the recently passed partial birth abortion ban (ala John F'n Kerry) and voted for final passage of the bill.
He is one of the slickest (think clinton type) politicians that there is. You cannot believe a word that he says. He plays everything, EVERYTHING to the advantage of Arlen Specter. He is not a republican in anything but name and he runs from that -- I'm an independent voice for PA -- at every chance.
Do you honestly believe that the Dems will win 8 of 9 Senate races? If so, you are the only one.
One more thing. . .
I don't know your position on gun rights, but despite the recent 'show votes' (they made the NRA look good since they endorsed him despite his vote for the so called Assualt Weapons Ban -- that bill was never really going anywhere)he is not pro gun.
Moments after saying that he regretted his vote for the clinton-feinstein-schumer AWB in 1994 because he said that it was ineffectual and violated our rights, I followed with a question about him voting for an extension if it was part of an 'important - must pass' package of bills.
Barely before I finished asking the question, he said he would if it was part of an 'anti terrorism' package. This despite it being ineffective and violative of our rights. He couldn't wait to determine your own homeland security weapon for you. That is - none. They'll be back later for your squirrel gun.
The man simply cannot be trusted.
The best argument that anyone has made so far is that the Dems might retake the Senate. And that argument just doesn't hold water. The rest of the arguments try to tie party and principle together. They don't work for a man who used our party to advance his own agenda and has no principle that we share.
I might well reconsider my position IF I believed that the Senate was at risk. I do not believe that it is. But I don't see as much difference between Leahy and Specter as I do between Kyl and Specter. And Specter will be replaced on the committee by another Republican that will like be more to our liking. (I really don't know who is next to come on board.) That committee and it's leadership in the right hands is more important to me than the votes of a powerless freshman senator who opposes us.
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