"You're nothing but a pack of cards!"
Posted on 05/14/2004 6:44:09 AM PDT by Boot Hill
It has been, that's where I got it from. That weird tidbit and about half a dozen more, just as weird.
--Boot Hill
but how does he jive this "they think people who don't support the war are unpatriotic" comment with his own views? He wants everybody taken out over there, he dislikes the UN and Blix et al, I just don't get it.
Tip of the cap to you, Sir...
That's been reported since March of 2003. I believe the NYT ran the story first. But what trips Loftus up, is when he tries to connect that to the recent story about the supposed WMD attack that Jordan broke up (in April). Loftus claimed the Jordanians captured VX and sarin. Funny thing about that, have you noticed that no one has run and disclosed the chemical tests that could verify that single most critical fact of the entire story? Guess why that might be?
--Boot Hill
The people you are describing are not MOABITES nor the lunatics I was speaking off and I am sure you know that.
Those of whom I speak are NOT informative, NOT quick on the uptake and NOT a positive reflection on FR.
For examples go back and look at the threads on Fallujah and tell me that those screeching to "Destroy everything, bomb, kill, bomb, kill" are good representatives of FR or anything serious.
Nothing you said disputes what I said though it was a nice rhetorical flourish capable of ingratiating you with some.
You have to understand that portion of the show is the most popular,you have to take it with a grain of salt.like debka file..right 50-70% of the time (may take awhile)some blarney but entertaining amd at least he goes out on a tree with the info.would you rather get the times,cnn,bbc,npr cbs etc etc etc...
but what about the claim that Jordan made about how many people the attack was supposed to kill? what kind of chemicals could do that? Or was that casualty figure just made up by the Jordanians?
I had someone else me ask about those ironies about a week ago. Here is (mol) how I answered him...
Check out these two bio pages (here and here) from Loftus' own website, where you will find several facets of his background that might explain that irony.
He is a former U.S. Army officer and claims to have helped train Israelis on certain aspects of covert operations that were useful during the 1973 Yom Kippur War. While Loftus is an Irish Catholic he is also President of the Florida Holocaust Museum. Nobody who has worked with and developed an affection for Israel and its people, could ever subscribe, in any great measure, to the left's view of the Middle East that is based simply on "Western imperialism". The Arab hatred and violence towards Israel is just too visceral and demonstrable. It is obvious to all but the intentionally blind that the Arab Middle East seeks nothing less than the complete destruction of Israel.
Loftus is also a former Justice Department prosecutor, a position which gave him access to some pretty top level classified information. While at the Justice Department, he worked many of the Nazi war criminal cases and has written about this in several of his subsequent books. Today, he sees the Nazi's as a dark sub-plot to everything that is happening in the world and looks for Nazi's under every bed (sort of a modern day James Jesus Angleton of the anti-Nazi set).
Loftus is a published author and is putting the final touches on his fifth book about the Middle East. He considers his books to be works of history, rather than fancy, but the man is so taken with "the intrigue of intrigue", that his books quickly wander off into Clancy-esque conspiratorial plots and unsupportable speculation. (And that's where he gets into trouble on the issue of WMD and its connection to the so-called Jordanian chemical bomb plot.)
He is a complex individual and not one you can easily categorize in the usual boxes. But a common theme runs throughout his commentaries and that is, that Loftus views the world through such heavily tinted, left-wing political glasses, that he is not a trustworthy source of intelligence about what is happening in the Middle East. His derogatory comments about FR (above), should tell you that much.
--Boot Hill
--Boot Hill
It may still be too early to tell for sure, but I suspect that the answer to your above question is: None, they didn't capture any significant amount of WMD chemicals.
--Boot Hill
Nick's father has a deceased sister who was married to an Iraqi.
you have to take it with a grain of saltI listen to the Loftus report virtually every night, more for its entertainment value than enlightenment (I don't think Loftus can ever live down his months-long "Saddam is still dead" mantra : )
When I heard Loftus mention the "ultra-right-wing site" on last night's show, I did pick up a certain reticence in his tone but didn't think any more about it till I saw this thread. By trying to dismiss FR with hackneyed rhetoric, Loftus only discredits himself, and Boot Hill is right to call him on it.
Eagles Up!
Since I have a very different perspective on fighting a war with people who wish to murder us all, I suggest you respect that and not refer to me or any other freeper as a lunatic.
For some more insight to Loftus and his real game go to this thread and then to some of the links:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1078633/posts
John Loftus Is Another Bush-Bashing Crackpot
John Loftus Website ^ | February 15, 2004 | John Loftus
Posted on 02/15/2004 9:41:37 AM PST by Hon
I never said FR was "a group of lunatics" so don't try and say that I did. What I did was decry those whose brains are kept in reserve while they shout "kill, bomb, kill" and second guess our leaders who have done a magnificent job in fighting our enemies. I have no use for these people and if you want to include yourself that is your prerogative. Embarassing FR and making it look ridiculous is something I try to avoid, others do not and say incredibly brainless or ignorant things. Nuking this and nuking that or leveling this or leveling that are not comments which will gain the respect of serious minded people. The rest I do not care about.
I respect only the respectable and don't pretend those who aren't are. In particular I do not respect the RATmedia nor those who join it in unwarranted, dangerous and insidious attempts to undermine President Bush WHO IS TAKING THE WAR TO THOSE WHO WANT TO KILL US. Anyone who truly wishes for such a result should refrain from attacks on the President and his advisors all of whom are dedicated to just that result.
Ah, that 'splains the uncle reference. I'll bet he was a little nervous. Probably didn't want to advertise to the neighbors either that he had been married to a Jewish woman, assuming he's a muslim.
--Boot Hill
Thanks for putting this up. Once again Loftus show he does not check the rumors he hears. (In addition to what he outright makes up himself)
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