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Iraqi Falluja Force Won't Disarm Guerrillas for Now
Reuters ^ | Fri, May 14, 2004 | Ibon Villelabeitia

Posted on 05/14/2004 4:18:42 AM PDT by Eurotwit

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1 posted on 05/14/2004 4:18:42 AM PDT by Eurotwit
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"U.S. commanders would like to see Latif's force go into the restive city and round up weapons from stubborn insurgents. Latif argues that if U.S. commanders wait, the weapons will eventually be handed over and the situation will calm down."

Something tells me a deadline is in order.

2 posted on 05/14/2004 4:21:24 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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THIS is how to lose the election....Americans want these pigs brought to justice....if the US citizens feel like Bush is losing his nerve to do what must be done, it will cost him dearly.


3 posted on 05/14/2004 4:21:40 AM PDT by Moby Grape
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"We want...the foreign fighters dead or out of here."

Is the commander on the scene saying that the foreign fighters can just leave, to murder and desecrate the bodies of civilian reconstruction workers another day?


4 posted on 05/14/2004 4:25:23 AM PDT by Stirner
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To: Impeach the Boy
While I agree with your sentiment that this is what SHOULD be done, I totally disagree about its political impact. Quite the contrary---do you SERIOUSLY think that John Effing Kerry would take a HARDER line on this? Can you really hear him saying, "The Marines ought to go in there and disarm these thugs now!"

No, Bush has the "hard line" on this issue no matter how it plays out. And, in fact, all most Americans hear on the news is that Fallujah is "quiet." And that's what they want . . . until they realize that it's a temporary lull in fighting that accomplishes nothing.

5 posted on 05/14/2004 4:27:49 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news.)
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Who do you propose to do the job, if not President Bush?


6 posted on 05/14/2004 4:28:21 AM PDT by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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No, the commander on the scene is saying that he wants them dead or out in the open where they can be killed more easily, rather than in an urban warfare environment.


8 posted on 05/14/2004 4:28:43 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news.)
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Was this an excerpt? I didn't notice the part of the story apologizing for all the prior erroneous stories telling us taht a different Sadaam General would be heading the Falujah brigade. Being in the liberal media means never having to say you're sorry.


9 posted on 05/14/2004 5:06:05 AM PDT by Williams
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The Iraqi general leading a force that controls Falluja said he had no plans to disarm insurgents, defying demands by U.S. commanders who appointed him and raising tension with Marines encircling the restive city.
Possibilities:

1. We've been duped.

2. The Iraqi general is making public statements to make himself look "independent" while quietly and effectively working with us.

10 posted on 05/14/2004 5:11:02 AM PDT by samtheman (www.georgewbush.com)
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I do not know why you, and another poster, would think that I was suggesting that someone other than Bush should lead us...My POINT, and only point, is that Bush has made an error by backing off....and the American people want JUSTICE and JUSTICE NOW....Kerry is taking advantage of this...it is NOT a matter of who I think can best lead, it is a matter of LOSING support for Bush, and POSSIBLY handing the election to a dufus coward lying scumbag like Kerry.


11 posted on 05/14/2004 5:22:00 AM PDT by Moby Grape
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The POINT was that backing off is a mistake that can hurt Bush (not who is best to lead)...the POINT is what the VOTERS think, not what you and I think.


12 posted on 05/14/2004 5:22:54 AM PDT by Moby Grape
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I wasn't at all suggesting you didn't like Bush. I disagree that the majority of Americans see this as "backing off." They aren't that familiar with the details, nor will they likely be. The only thing they see is that there is "peace" in Fallujah. My other point, though, was that Kerry is absolutely unable to make any incident like this---where the ONLY alternative would be to "go harder military"---into a campaign issue, since his only alternative is to "go softer" (i.e., the UN).

These are two separate, but intertwined issues. Perhaps 1/4 of Americans (you and I included) would prefer to see a more hard-line stance in Fallujah and Najaf; about 1/4 want a "peace-at-any-cost"/appeasement solution. The reamining 50% (or more) don't keep up with the daily details enough to have an opinon on what should be done specifically in places like Fallujah.

13 posted on 05/14/2004 5:37:01 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news.)
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Well, to be fair, it appeared that for a while a former Saddam guy would be heading the brigade, until he was replaced. I still haven't figured out what happened to him.


14 posted on 05/14/2004 5:37:53 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news.)
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Obviously by my post, I disagree with your assesment that the voter doesn't view this as "backing off"...I point to polls that show a weakening of support for Bush's handling of the war.

Of course, I hope I am wrong.


15 posted on 05/14/2004 5:58:10 AM PDT by Moby Grape
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To: Impeach the Boy
I do not know why you, and another poster, would think that I was suggesting that someone other than Bush should lead us...My POINT, and only point, is that Bush has made an error by backing off.

Reminds me of the STUPID limited bombing Johson did in VIETNAM then backed off that for PEACE TALKS
16 posted on 05/14/2004 6:00:18 AM PDT by uncbob
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"Who do you propose to do the job, if not President Bush?"

Certainly NOT John Kerry OR Ralph Nader. There must be a reason for the delay in disarming those thugs.


17 posted on 05/14/2004 6:01:40 AM PDT by AngieGOP (We don't need no stinkin facts -- DNC)
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hang on folks.....let's see how this works out


18 posted on 05/14/2004 6:03:23 AM PDT by rrrod
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Don't know either, though he was supposedly going to have a battalion in the brigade after it was 'clarified' that he wasn't going to be in command.

BTW, I disagree with your current tagline --- As bad as Amtrak is, it's really unfair to Amtrak to compare it to CNN. :)

19 posted on 05/14/2004 6:04:49 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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hang on folks.....let's see how this works out

Having seen how it worked out with al-Sadr, I think I'll just go ahead and judge this one right now.
20 posted on 05/14/2004 6:11:43 AM PDT by pt17
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