Posted on 05/13/2004 9:13:32 PM PDT by kristinn
Where's the evidence to support that statement? Just because his wacked out dad said it, doesn't make it true. I doubt it is true.
Despicable. There really are no words strong enough to describe the vileness of this man. Who the hell does he think was wielding the knife while his son screamed for his life? Who literally slaughtered his son in a vastly less humane way than that used to slaughter farm animals? Who used his son as an object to score political points? And who is aiding his son's killers in scoring those political points? Lastly, who is using the slaughter of his son as a tool to recruit more killers who, in turn, will slaughter other innocents — most especially Jewish innocents? And who is aiding his son's killers in achieving their recruitment goals?
He's not whacked, he's wicked.
To say that is to excuse the Left for its actions. That, I will never do, and the Michael Savages of the world do a great disservice in using their radio "megaphones" to provide the Left with such an excuse. Leftists are NOT mentally ill. They are ideologically driven.
Actually, if I have the story straight, the father and Nick's siblings were out on the lawn talking to reporters when one of the latter asked if the family had seen the video. The family had been informed that Nick was beheaded, but it was the release of the video that caused the father to sink to the lawn in tears. He was upset the video was made public.
On the other hand, knowing what we do now about daddy Berg's desire to use his son's death for political purposes, your suspicions about the "grief on the lawn" scene are valid.
Reporters have got to be the tackiest form of life on this earth.
After reading the article, I still have most of the same questions. He disreguarded his security, went around by himself to the dismay of his Iraqi partner, and looked like a marine in civies.
They weren't getting much work. He went home once when he was not finding work. But he went back? Using what for money?
The best thing that happened to him was getting arrested, and offered a ride home. He refused. He seems very similar to those "Human Shields" we all have so much respect for. Except he actually paid the price.
DK
Well gee, I guess we should have traded him for 19 guys who had boxcutters handy.
Berg said he did not blame the terrorists for his son's violent death.
This man is insane or demonically oppressed. I am not kidding or exaggerating.
"Nicholas Berg died for the sins of George Bush and Donald Rumsfeld," he said, shortly after posting a "War is not the Answer" sign on his front lawn. "The al-Qaeda people are probably just as bad as they are, but this administration did this."
Put him and his family on a plane to Saudi Arabia right now. Make them live acroos the street from a Wahabi madrassa.
Berg said his son may have turned down the offer because he'd "had enough of the FBI." Payne, the U.S. consular officer, also told the family she'd try to get him on a military flight out of Baghdad, he said.
Sure, when I'm in a warzone, I'm always willing to let petty irritations keep me from getting home alive.
"And someone asked him basically if he could use his computer. And he did. College kids did it all the time. And it turns out this guy was a terrorist and he used my son's e-mail address - amongst many other people's e-mail who he did the same thing to.
I know Ashcroft said basically the same thing, but I don't let anybody use my school account. Anyone who does is an idiot.
Bill Schneider, a CNN political analyst, said it's clear that both liberals and conservatives are trying to use Nick Berg's gruesome death to advance their causes.
Yeah, libs like his dad. I guess it's easier to use your kid as a political prop before you put him in the ground.
"The Right seized upon his terrible death to try to reverse the momentum of horror over prisoners being abused," he said. "They immediately seized upon that to say, `You see. These are the people we're dealing with.'
Oh, I'm sorry, could the nice CNN man point out what is invalid with our argument? It was not right, what those twits did to those prisoners, but after a week of people drawing moral equivalence between us and the terrorists because of it, the berg execution brought home how unlike them we are.
"And now the Left is trying to say he was arrested because he was harassed because of his father's anti-war ideologies," he said.
And blaming an American government for the actions of an al-Qaeda thug.
The danger facing American contractors in Iraq like Nick Berg is likely to continue, said Kathryn Rosenblum, editor of the Iraq Reconstruction Report, a newsletter devoted to Iraq business prospects.
Not while Ted Kennedy's around.
Or insanity/demonic oppression/demonic possession on the part of the Dad.
I've seen that happen before. I served with some folks in the Air Force who did so to get away from their parents. I told them all they should have joined the Navy...
Wirestripper's response in # 90 is good stuff, but I'd like to offer one more thing: Often, when leftists use the term neo-conservative, they really mean DA JOOOOZ!! (Paul Wolfowitz, Bill Kristol, etc.)
I'd like to ask the man about that. "Mr. Berg, when the Al-qaeda guys heard that you didn't hold them responsible for your son's death, do you think they laughed, or do you think they thought, 'whew, that's a wait off my mind, I was so worried that a Jewish pacifist in Pennsylvania might be holding a grudge"?
I agree keeping our mouths shut may be the best option...but then again, his remarks tell the general public all they need to know about the sort of person Berg Senior is, and the sort of people who run in the anti-war community. Mainly though, I can assure you that this was not the grief talking. Berg's religion is liberalism, and this statement was a sacrifice to his god.
Well said.
Berg's father is truly despicable, using his son's death as an excuse to bash the Bush admin -- despite the fact that he knows very well that Bush's policy is to not negotiate with terrorists and that Bush's spokesman already made it clear that no such offer was made by the terrorists in Berg's case.
Thanks for the info.
I guess it isn't a bad thing then (It wouldbe to them).
I also found this definition...
neo-conservative= An intellectual and political movement in favor of political, economic, and social conservatism that arose in opposition to the perceived liberalism of the 1960s: “The neo-conservatism of the 1980s is a replay of the New Conservatism of the 1950s, which was itself a replay of the New Era philosophy of the 1920s” (Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr.).
"Leftist's use and like the term because it is close to neo-fascist. That is how they view us."
LOL That sounds like them not us.
neo-fascist= A movement inspired by the tenets and methods of fascism or Nazism.
There is one upside to this, but it is cold comfort. We (meaning the "kill the terrorists" crowd) win no matter what. If we keep prosecuting the war properly, that's a win. If we take the John F. Kerry law enforcement/please France approach, then someday soon Al-Qaeda does something huge, maybe even something that costs us a whole city. Then, people like Mike Berg will be lucky if they don't have mobs show up at their house to lynch them, Sedition and treason will finally be enforced, we will go to Plan C (every terrorist in a cell or cemetary) and do whatever it takes for as long as it takes.
The Soviet union could have killed us all. China could kill most of us and may someday be able to kill us all. Al-Qaeda probably couldn't even kill a tenth of us no matter how hard they tried. So the question is not whether we will go after these people, but how many of us have to die before we will realize that it is not optional.
LOL! Yes indeed, they continue to this day to call us Nazi's when everyone who studies history knows that Hitler was a liberal!
We had a guy in our local guard unit die in Iraq. Every decent-sized or major paper in the Northern half of Illinois called his parents looking for a comment the day they found out. I was too stunned to speak when I heard about it.
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