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Media Outlets Won't Show Beheading Video (Media Hypocrisy Alert)
AP via Yahoo News ^ | 5/11/04 | By DAVID BAUDER, AP Television Writer

Posted on 05/11/2004 3:15:31 PM PDT by Wolfstar

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To: My Dog Likes Me
The Zapruder film is shown without protest these days. That is my point, the culture we live in now. The same media culture that refuses to show this video to the public.

The media cop out is to say (A) out of respect for the family AND (B) you can get it yourself off the internet. If they are going to tell people to get it off the internet then they aren't respecting the family.

141 posted on 05/12/2004 1:25:52 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: LonghornFreeper
Security camera footage of people being shot and killed airs all the time. There is nothing about "losing a license" codified.

The left keeps pushing for a day when they can televise an execution at a prison.

142 posted on 05/12/2004 1:27:54 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: rwfromkansas
This video showed it happen.

I agree - if one imagines that every GI in the Pacific Theatre knew about this picture, think what the Berg video will do not only for our troops, but perhaps every citizen of the civilized world. There ain't no goin' back, no matter how vainly libs may fantasize.

143 posted on 05/12/2004 7:46:42 AM PDT by Snerfling
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To: LonghornFreeper
You in turn have missed or ignored the point of my post. Whether or not you agree with the censoring of this video, there is nothing the media can do about it. Even if you personally owned and operated CNN and had full control over what it put on the air, and you decided to put this video on in full, America would only see it for a couple of days before you lost your broadcast license and your network was taken permanently off the air. If you want to complain about censorship, complain at the FCC.

Well, they better pull the license of CCTV broadcast here in the U.S. because they ran the entire footage. Sorry, but I don't buy that the FCC would put CBS NBC or ABC out of business for running the video.

As for how to understand what the war is about without seeing the video, we were able to fight and win many wars before TV even existed, so it is ridiculous to say that if the population cannot see brutality on TV we won't be able to understand the war...

Your comparison saying we should be able to understand this war without television because we have fought other wars without televison ignores very significant differences an does not work as an argument.

In past wars, neither side had television. In this war, both sides have television but the television coverage is being retricted to only that showing America in a bad light. Atrocities a hundred times worse by the other side are not being shown while abuses by American troops of Iraqi prisoner are shown hundreds and hundreds of times.

Surely you can discern this distinction. And if you are going to fall back on the position that the picture of the beheading is just too gruesome to show, think about the message you send to people that would commit such gruesome acts.

Knowing a horrible act will be shown on television only where it motivates your supporters but will never be shown where it would increase the resolve of the enemy, of course they are going to continue to do such things. Your position actually encourages more of the same brutal atrocities.

You need to think your positions through much more thoroughly to take into account not just the immediate but also the stepped consequences that follow position that only one side should be without the benefit of television in the fighting of this war.

144 posted on 05/12/2004 9:58:08 AM PDT by BJungNan
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To: newheart
To show it would only appeal to certain pornographic sensibilities. The fact is, that by no showing it the effect will be much stronger in two ways. First, because human imagination tends to make up even worse than the actual images would show (not that they aren't sickening and heinous).

You're wrong.

First, I don't have any "pronogrphic sensibilities." I wanted to see exactly what those SOBs did to him for my own information. Simply that and no more.

Secondly, it was worse than my human imagination thought it would be.

It has rekindled my anger from 9/11, which had evolved somewhat of a teary sentimental sadness. Now I remember why we're fighting and what we're fighting for, and how much farther we need to go before it's over.

Did I like watching it? Are you kidding? But I'm glad I did, because now I think I have my head screwed on straight again re the enemy.

145 posted on 05/12/2004 10:30:49 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod ('I went to Vietnam, yada yada yada, I want to be President...")
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To: BlessedBeGod

Well, I've been wrong plenty of times.

With all due respect, however, one definition of pornography means simply lurid or sensational images. It should not take that to set one straight about the enemy. There are places where the true enemy (the powers and pricipalities) are very close to the surface. Surely al Qaida is a good example.


146 posted on 05/14/2004 1:37:09 PM PDT by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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To: Wolfstar

"..just like they stuffed 9/11..."

While we were being "sheltered", every European country was watching it over and over. Frankly, it makes me angry that our gov't decides what we should see and what we shouldn't. Granted, gross and violent images should only be available to adults and the adults can decide if their kids can see.

There should be a site where any American who wants to see 9/11 as it happened from start to end (if available) can do so. If anyone knows such, please post. Thank you. We, as adults, should be able to see both 9/11 and 5/11!


147 posted on 05/14/2004 10:11:03 PM PDT by whadizit
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To: Brit_Guy

"It is our troops who have surprised us ..."

Look at the age of some of our troops..it doesn't surprise me they taunt the Iraqi troops that way. At 18-19 many are still children.
I understand that's no excuse.

I recently viewed the clip myself. I was deeply saddened within my soul.
(I know this is crude) It seemed they were using a dull knife making the detestable act take longer. It made me sick to my stomach. How could anyone think that was fake?


148 posted on 05/18/2004 11:04:39 AM PDT by crusty_fried
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To: All

In the end of Daniel Pearl's video it says:

"We assure Americans that they shall never be safe on the Muslim Land of Pakistan, and if our demands are not met, this scene shall be repeated again and again..."

Your thoughts? Something about that comment makes me very uneasy. I realize that's it's a warning of what was to come later. (9/ll, Berg, etc.) I want to have something interesting to comment about it myself, but I just can't think of the right words to say.

***Straying away from subject...sorry
Has anyone noticed the lack of GOD lately? I was listening to broadcasts on MTV the other day while cleaning my house, and they were making fun of some list with Jesus Christ listed as #1 for something. I didn't catch all of it. Then, they proceeded to talk about other things that should have envolved HIM, but they left HIM out. That just made me cry. Seems it's not "in" to talk about GOD and faith anymore. He hasn't left us, so why have so many deserted HIM?
How do all these famous people think they got famous in the first place...oh that's right...they sold their soul.

The LORD giveth, and HE shall taketh away... :)


149 posted on 05/18/2004 12:37:30 PM PDT by crusty_fried (I Corinthians 13-11)
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