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Report: U.S. Lags in Science Education
Science - AP ^ | 2004-05-05 | Adam Ashton

Posted on 05/06/2004 9:06:00 AM PDT by Junior

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To: joesnuffy
I chalk it up to lack of rigor in the elementary/secondary educations.
21 posted on 05/06/2004 10:27:11 AM PDT by Junior (Remember, you are unique, just like everyone else.)
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To: Little Ray
Need to cap output on lawyers, education majors, ethnic and gender studies, and other such garbage.

Not in a free society, we don't.

22 posted on 05/06/2004 10:28:18 AM PDT by Junior (Remember, you are unique, just like everyone else.)
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To: LiteKeeper
Michigan Technological University
Don't know where I am going for the doctorate.
23 posted on 05/06/2004 10:33:33 AM PDT by John Will
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To: Junior; joesnuffy; msdrby
Entertainment addiction of Americans and their children is the cause imo

I chalk it up to lack of rigor in the elementary/secondary educations.

Both of these statements have merit. My expirience is that teachers lack the background in the subject they're teaching to be able present them rigorously. Math is an excellent example. When a kid asks, honestly or not, "What will I use this for?", most math teachers haven't a clue. "To pass the test" is an incredibly lame sanswer.

There are numerous root causes for the entire problem. Repairing the situation is not going to be an easy process.

24 posted on 05/06/2004 10:35:14 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (Distinguished drop-out of the Why the Heck Should I Care School of Society.)
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To: Phantom Lord
Read The Flight From Science and Reason, edited by Paul R. Gross, Norman Levitt and Martin Lewis (NY, New York Academy of Sciences/JHU, 1996) and Higher Superstition: The Academic Left and Its Quarrels with Science, Paul R. Gross & Norman Levitt (MD,JHU, 1994).
25 posted on 05/06/2004 10:38:24 AM PDT by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: Junior
bump for later referece
26 posted on 05/06/2004 10:57:42 AM PDT by Robert357
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To: Junior
Even in a free society, we can change people's minds; most colleges and universities get Federal money - simply lower the amount they get based on what sort of graduates they turn out.
27 posted on 05/06/2004 2:37:56 PM PDT by Little Ray (John Ffing sKerry: Just a gigolo!)
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To: Junior; All
I ASSURE YOU,

CHINA

IS NOT

LAGGING BEHIND

but is racing ahead as fast as their heavy handed bureaucracy can carry them.
28 posted on 05/06/2004 2:53:12 PM PDT by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: PatrickHenry
As long as Patrick Henry University is held up as a school for leadership, this will continue. (PHU offers less science than my high school did.)
29 posted on 05/06/2004 2:54:00 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
As long as Patrick Henry University is held up as a school for leadership ...

I guess it falls to me, as the bearer of my screen name, to speak up for good ol' PH. To begin with, it's Patrick Henry College, not University. Then, there's the matter of what they purport to teach. From their website: Patrick Henry College, they have only a Department of Government and a Department of Classical Liberal Arts. Not yet an educational collosus.

The website says: "Students majoring in Government may choose from three tracks--Public Policy, Journalism, and the most recent addition, Strategic Intelligence. ..." Liberal Arts offers majors in Literature and History. "The Literature major has two tracks--Masterworks and Creative and Professional Writing."

Anyway, they're not a science or engineering school. And I don't see any biology being offered. So PH doesn't bother me at all. I might add that we've had, to my knowledge, two Presidents who were trained as engineers: Herbert Hoover and Jimmy Carter. (Whatever that proves.)

30 posted on 05/06/2004 4:08:52 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (A compassionate evolutionist!)
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To: Junior
No kidding. With abortion rates like ours, who would have thought our kids were not hated and taken care of in our schools...
31 posted on 05/06/2004 4:09:54 PM PDT by JudgemAll
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