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The End of American Jewry's Golden Era
DanielPipes.Org ^ | 02 May, 2004 | Daniel Pipes

Posted on 05/02/2004 7:32:44 AM PDT by Salem

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And if you're an American Jew reading this and have come to the conclusion through objective observation and personal research that the Democratic party is selling out you and your friends and family living—and fighting to survive—in Israel by coddling and appeasing the Jew-hating Islamists both overseas and in our midst, well, y'all just come on over to Free Republic and we have this nice Doc Alouette here and she'll fix you up real good.  !

1 posted on 05/02/2004 7:32:45 AM PDT by Salem
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2 posted on 05/02/2004 7:34:17 AM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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"To counteract this, the Jewish community has to develop a greater understanding of how Muslims think; in particular their more radical elements, those supporters of militant Islam known as Islamists."

The Jewish community needs to abandon their reflexive liberalism and get on board with hard-nosed, tough, and aggressive Republicans. They have figured it out in Israel, electing Sharon, so there is hope that they will finally figure it out in this country.

Jewish opinion leaders in television and movies, like Larry David, need to get off the bash Bush bandwagon and rouse the populace by explaining the danger that radical Islam represents to this country.

They did an excellent job during WWII, when they understood the danger that Hitler represented to their people and the pro-war propaganda was pervasive and highly effective.

Lots of Americans and lots more terrorists will have to die before we win this war.
3 posted on 05/02/2004 7:41:52 AM PDT by jjackson
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To: Salem
Although the Koran is certainly one of the most boring books ever compiled, Americans ought to familiarize themselves with it. "Why I am not a Muslim" by Ibn Warraq is an excellent companion volume to its reading. Warraq does an outstanding job of pointing out the evil inherent in ALL Islam.
4 posted on 05/02/2004 7:48:03 AM PDT by per loin (This tagline has not been censored!)
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5 posted on 05/02/2004 7:51:11 AM PDT by dennisw (GD is against Amalek for all generations)
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To: Salem
At some point in time, people in America have to stop believing that it's all our fault, that somehow we have been unfair to these people. If you look out over the Islamic nations and see their poverty, prejudice and murder, can you really play the poor victim card? Everywhere this religion goes, murder, destruction and tyranny follow. There is something very wrong in their thought process, and liberals in this country had better wake up and smell the coffee.
6 posted on 05/02/2004 7:56:16 AM PDT by man of Yosemite ("When a man decides to do something everyday, that's about when he stops doing it.")
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To: Salem
Thanks for this post. Most informative. I've sent it to others as it seems really on mark!
7 posted on 05/02/2004 8:00:15 AM PDT by RAY (They that do right are all heroes!)
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To: Salem
It is not so absurd to think that at some point in the future Iran may become more of an American ally than France

What's absurd is considering the frogs as allies at all.

8 posted on 05/02/2004 8:05:09 AM PDT by watchin
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To: man of Yosemite
"At some point in time, people in America have to stop believing that it's all our fault, that somehow we have been unfair to these people. If you look out over the Islamic nations and see their poverty, prejudice and murder, can you really play the poor victim card? Everywhere this religion goes, murder, destruction and tyranny follow. There is something very wrong in their thought process, and liberals in this country had better wake up and smell the coffee."

RIGHT!! THIS WAR WILL WAGE A REALLY LONG TIME -- THE MORE INTENSE WE DO IT THE SOONER IT ENDS. THIS EARTH NEEDS TO BE PURGED OF THOSE WHO USE RELIGION TO TAKE AWAY THE FREEDOMS AND LIVES OF OTHERS! RE-EDUCATION IS A FINE AND NOBLE THOUGHT - BUT THEIR TEACHING AND RESULTING MINDSET MAKE IT ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE. FEAR AND INTERNAL PRESSURE AMOUNG THEMSELVES, IT SEEMS, IS THE ONLY THING THAT WILL STEM THE TIDE -- AN ONLY TEMPORALY, AT THAT.

9 posted on 05/02/2004 8:10:00 AM PDT by RAY (They that do right are all heroes!)
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To: Salem
Eloquence and perceptivity did not make Churchill prime minister of Great Britain; it was the fall of France that did so.

Exactly right: sad to say, one 9/11 seems to have been insufficient.

10 posted on 05/02/2004 8:27:27 AM PDT by Charlotte Corday
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I don't find where this article mentions the "End of American Jewry's Golden Era." I don't believe that American Jewry has ever had any "Golden Era" if you measure such things, as I do, by the perpetuation of Judaism and the flourishing of the Jewish religion rather than material success in the secular world. I would say that American Jewry still has a way to go before that has been achieved.

If by "Golden Era" is meant the minimization of "anti-Semitism" then, definitely, anti-Semitism is growing here.

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11 posted on 05/02/2004 8:32:20 AM PDT by Alouette (Float like a butterfly, sting like a B-52)
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"we have this nice Doc Alouette here and she'll fix you up real good."

Some flattering words about you, and well deserved!
12 posted on 05/02/2004 8:37:48 AM PDT by jocon307 (The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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Mentioned in the third paragraph, Alouette, and as you surmised, the "Golden Era" was more about material success in the secular world than a rennaisance of Jewish faith...

the infowarrior

13 posted on 05/02/2004 8:42:37 AM PDT by infowarrior (TANSTAAFL)
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To: Salem
Thanks, will subscribe!!! GREAT piece!!!

Years before September 11, 2001, Pipes uttered warnings that militant Islam was a violent threat to American security. In 1998, he wrote in the European edition of the Wall Street Journal that militant Muslims were at war with America, not because of what America did, but because Islamists perceive themselves as being in a long-term conflict with the values of the West.

…He forecasts: "There will be more attacks by Islamists on Americans. I can say this confidently because so many signs point in this direction. These assaults will awaken people. I expect it to be a one-way process of what I call education by murder. I do expect ever more Americans to worry; contrarily, I do not expect to hear many say, 'Well, I used to be worried about the threat of militant Islam, but no longer.' As time passes and more events occur, their assessment will become more realistic.

…"Militant Islam cannot be compared to any segment of Christianity, Judaism, or Hinduism. These religions do not embody groups with totalitarian utopian ideologies that seek world hegemony. In fact, militant Islam resembles fascism and communism more than any religious movement.

…Pipes thinks it likely that Christianity and Islam are on a collision course as they compete for converts and power. "Islam is on the offensive when it preaches jihad.5 It means enlarging the territories ruled by Muslims at the expense of those ruled by non-Muslims. This territorial expansion has always been central to Islam.

"Contemporary jihad is the main source of terrorism and has inspired a worldwide campaign of violence. Jihadist groups murdered Egypt's president Anwar al-Sadat in 1981, slaughtered more than ten thousand Christians in Indonesia and perhaps two million Christians and animists in Sudan, and have been a leading cause of violence in Kashmir and Israel."

… He concludes by cautioning: "When one says these things, one always has to be sure that one is not too far out in front. I had articles in my computer before 9/11, such as the one which came out only afterwards under the title 'The Danger Within: Militant Islam in America.'6 In it, I said that most of the organized American Muslim community was in the hands of extremists, and it agreed with the Islamist goal of turning the United States into an Islamic state.

Ironically, all one has to do is to pick up a copy of the Quran/Koran and read the first ten chapters to see that this is exactly the case! Pipes doesn't really say it as directly, but muslims, all of them if they truly believe their "good book" the Quran, place Christians and Jews into the same category, thereby hating both.

But world conquest is clearly their goal as stated in the Quran with either death or ultimate subjection to the rest who aren't "card carrying" muslims.

Once again...

In the meantime, a few excerpts from the Quran/Koran:

[2.193] And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah

[4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

[4.95] The holders back from among the believers, not having any injury, and those who strive hard in Allah's way with their property and their persons are not equal

[4.144] O you who believe! do not take the unbelievers for friends rather than the believers; do you desire that you should give to Allah a manifest proof against yourselves?

[5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

[8.39] And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah; but if they desist, then surely Allah sees what they do.

[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

[9.11] But if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, they are your brethren in faith

So much for religious freedom, eh!!

[9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

[9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

[9.33] He it is Who sent His Apostle with guidance and the religion of truth, that He might cause it to prevail over all religions, though the polytheists may be averse.

[9.123] O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).

Interesting how if allowed to permeate our nation these very own tenets from the Quran would destroy this country and turn it into a hell hole! Literally, a "hell hole!"

Every single one of those is straight from the first ten chapters of the Quran!

HELLO AMERICA!!!

"Peace Loving"....I don't think so!!

This religion is essentially the right hand of Satan himself.

14 posted on 05/02/2004 8:46:37 AM PDT by wingster
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To: Salem
we have this nice Doc Alouette here and she'll fix you up real good.

If that doesn't work my boy will bring his gun.


15 posted on 05/02/2004 8:57:25 AM PDT by Alouette (Float like a butterfly, sting like a B-52)
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To: Salem
Thanks Salem for the ping! I pray for Daniel Pipes! My son attented a lecture that Pipes gave at US Third World Department of State over a year ago. My son stated that the audience was packed with Muslims - who seemed to have gotten all the seats! My son had to stand in the back with another Marine, but he was so glad he went! Pipes needs our support - and FReepers should attend his lectures in their areas to see first hand how Muslims are allowed to suppress free speech and get away with it!
18 posted on 05/02/2004 10:30:08 AM PDT by TrueBeliever9 (aut viam inveniam aut faciam (where there is a will - there is a way)
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To: Alouette
A troubling piece.
19 posted on 05/02/2004 11:13:39 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: TrueBeliever9; Salem
Very good post. Bump for later.
20 posted on 05/02/2004 11:13:39 AM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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