Cow cut, drained in Arborg: Mutilation mystifies

The Winnipeg Sun ^ | Thursday, April 29, 2004 | NATALIE PONA

[SteveH]

Linda Moulton Howe has something about it.

Strange Harvest

Alien Harvest

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0962057010/102-4536355-4653711?v=glance

[ColoradoSlim]

Thanks friend, I'll check em out along with Good's book.

[Quix]

I think mostly ABOVE TOP SECRET was considered by those in the field as fairly solid for the time. It may have taken some hits in parts since then but I don't recall over what. I think other titles were considered less rigorously researched by Good and were considered less authoritative or believable or some such.

I think UNEARTHLY DISCLOSURE is back up there on research etc.

Footnote 19 . . :
UFOCUS, vol 2, no. 1, 1997, pp.7-11, ed. Dr Leo Sprinkle, The Institute for UFO REsearch, 1304 South College Avenue, Fort Collins, Colorado 80524, originally published in CNI News, ed Michael Lindermann.

I don't know about the blood chem analysis on that score.

Certainly it's NOT predators. Actually, predators USUALLY GIVE THE CARCASSES A VERY WIDE BERTH and they take much longer than usual to decay.

[SteveH]

I think mostly ABOVE TOP SECRET was considered by those in the field as fairly solid for the time. It may have taken some hits in parts since then but I don't recall over what. I think other titles were considered less rigorously researched by Good and were considered less authoritative or believable or some such.

I think UNEARTHLY DISCLOSURE is back up there on research etc.

OK, thanks. However, I did get a sense from reading Good's earlier work that he has a tendency towards hyperbole, along lines reminiscent of Chariots of the Gods. LMH seemed to give somewhat more evenhanded treatment of similar material and reports (IMHO).

Personally, I would be cautious of supporting anything Good has to offer unless it's thoroughly vetted by others.

Footnote 19 . . : UFOCUS, vol 2, no. 1, 1997, pp.7-11, ed. Dr Leo Sprinkle, The Institute for UFO REsearch, 1304 South College Avenue, Fort Collins, Colorado 80524, originally published in CNI News, ed Michael Lindermann.

Thanks.

I don't know about the blood chem analysis on that score.

With all the carcasses available, it should prove amenable to something like a mass spectrograph analysis. (Hey, maybe they can call those CSI guys!)

[Sam Cree]

Funny that the chupacabras are a hispanic phenomenon.
'Course, that means that we probably have 'em here in Miami!

[Quix]

I agree.

Don't know. have never heard of any in Miami.

They might too easily be shot in the USA.

[Quix]

Thanks.

You could be right about Good. I just consider him above average.

But even the best are BOUND to have a LOT of disinformation mixed in because of the nature of the phenomena and the government's relationship to it . . .

ON TOP OF the disinformation purposely put out to whomever by the ET's themselves. And their stories are more varied than KOMMIEKERRY'S!

Thanks.

[Free Trapper]

Canal critters-nutria.

If you hunt p-dog,armadillo,nutria or about any furbearers,and it's legal to sell carcasses in your parts,try to find a dealer that supplies Asian markets.

You might be surprised how much you can make by selling carcasses.I hate to see anything go to waste and we "all" need more guns and ammo. :O).

Muskrats,beaver,coyote,bobcat,nearly any kind of snake;almost any carcass is worth something on the Asian market.Just check your laws closely before selling.

[ColoradoSlim]

Friend that sounds like a real sensible idea, excepten there's not much left of a prairie dog after it's been hit with a 60gr 223 scooten through em at almost 3000fps. Do they like prairie dog burger?

[ColoradoSlim]

Oh and your dang right; we do all need more guns and ammo.

[Quix]

I'd forgotten this fact when I posted to you last . . .

authentic mutilations are USUALLY--what--98% of the time I'd guess--

WHOLESALE AVOIDED BY PREDATORS--at least for weeks to months after the incident. They want nothing to do with them.

And, the carcasses typically take a lot longer to decay.

And, sometimes--I don't know any frequency on this--the land and plants in the immediate circle around where the animal was originally taken up in a beam of light will have abnormalities compared to the surrounding ground and plants.

I forget what the abnormalities are--water content% would be one . . .

Also, in terms of the cuts . . . I'll quote from page p. 252 from Good's book:

"Dr John Altshuler, a haematologist and pathologist, was the first to conduct a post-mortem of a mutilated animal, the horse Lady, on a ranch in Alamosa, Colorado, in 1967. Since then, he has analysed hundreds of tissue samples, some of which he has given me, together with control samples, taken from mutilated animals. His conclusion is that high heat has been used to cut the animals. In effect, the Institute disputes his findings, so I asked him for a comment. He stated as follows:"

"The authors of the NIDS report failed to read and examine the photomicrographs published in Linda Moulton Howe's book, Alien Harvest.'16 In that book, I showed photomicrographs of skin that had pallisading of nuclei and the string-bean effect which only may be caused by high heat. Decomposition of tissue cannot cause or change this microscopic finding. I am enclosing a copy of a photograph from the text of Histologic Diagnosis of Inflammatory Skin Diseases by A. Bernard Ackerman, MD. If one compares the photomicrographs from Howe's book and the text, the findings will be seen to be identical. Please note that the legend in the text [of Ackerman's work] states, 'Blister secondary to electrodessication . . . ' Any physician knows that electrodessication is high heat. The data are irrefutable.'17"

'17 = Letter to the author, 20 October 1999.

On pp 250 & 251, details are given about some blood analyses. But I don't think these are the best. I'm not sure. Anyway--there seems to be an extremely low copper liver value. So much so that one would have expected the animal to have lost weight etc. Comparisons with the rest of the herd showed no similar defficiences. There were some other differences you can find in the book.

A blue gel has been found on the surfaces where the excisions have taken place, including an eye socket. An analysis of the blue gel found that it could be "characterized as a complex mixture of organic substances of biological origin and an aqueous solution containing formaldehyde. Since there is no biological process that produces formaldehyde and it is not a common environmental contaminant, the source of formaldehyde is unknown . . . '13 . . . it was decided to investigate whether the blue gel was comparable to any known embalming gels currently used in the United States . . . the blue gel-like substance found on the cow in Utah did not conform to any of the blue embalming gels currently in use in morturaries in the United States.

Doesn't sound like a predator at all, to me.

A beam of light is not always visible. Sometimes an animal is just seen rising up toward a ship or toward something hidden in a cloud, though I think the latter is not overly common.

[Quix]

they take

SIGNIFICANTLY LONGER than usual to decay.

[Free Trapper]

HaHa!You must not be a head shooter. :)

The extra cash could buy you a nice .17 Remington for the little guys.

[ColoradoSlim]

Shucks Trapper, I'm lucky to hit anything thats 350 yard away. Hey, what do you figure one of those pesky chupacabra pelts would get me?

[ItisaReligionofPeace]

Why wouldn't these government agents simply purchase these cows as they arrive at the cattle auctions every year? Quite frankly your theory is silly.

[ColoradoSlim]

I know friend, I've been watching too dang many X File reruns, but I'm going to get a couple of books you folks have been talking about and read up on it.

[tet68]

What do you think an eagle does to a cow? It removes strips of flesh for several days. Maybe you misunderstand me. It does this while the cow or sheep is alive and walking around until it bleeds to death, going into shock, or dies from infection.


What a cruel mistress the IRS is.

[blackdog]

Circumstantial versus bureaucratic predation........

Me thinks it's the latter, the most cruel.

[ItisaReligionofPeace]

Books we have been talking about? Do you see my point about testing cows? Why not simply buy a few rather than slip around at night slaughtering them in a field? Makes absolutely no sense.

[Free Trapper]

A chupacabra should be worth nearly as much as a bigfoot,I would guess. ;)

.

I've caught everything in my life from men on down but about 6 months back had some folks start trying to talk me into a new kind of huntin'.

They're really trying to convince me to put some time in looking for a bigfoot.

It's kind of hard not to believe some of the stories these guys tell when you're face to face with them.Also,"they" believe enough to have invested "major" bucks in all kinds of fancy equipment to help in their hunt.

I have to admit,they at least got my attention when telling me I'd never have to work another day in my life if I could bring in the goods.

I harvest all kinds of critters but I'm not a "sport" hunter.When huntin',trappin',fishin' and divin' are what you do for a living,what the L would a guy do if he had so much money he had to retire? :O(