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What Kellen Winslow II SHOULD have said about Pat Tillman
San Francisco Examiner ^
| April 26, 2004
| Bob Frantz
Posted on 04/26/2004 1:01:37 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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To: L.N. Smithee
Will people please leave Eli Manning alone? I'm sick of it. He looked into San Diego. He asked league sources. He decided he didn't want to spend 10 years on a team that wasn't motivated to win, being crushed by a 250 pound line backer on every play. You wouldn't either.
To: dead
The writter is offering his point of view of how Tillman had class and the other two do not (in his view).
To: L.N. Smithee
For those of us who don't give a wet slap about the draft and didn't see a second of it...what DID Kellen Winslow Jr. say? Anything of note?
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posted on
04/26/2004 1:16:21 PM PDT
by
Bloody Sam Roberts
(ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,Election '04...It's going to be a bumpy ride,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø)
To: L.N. Smithee
Great column..
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posted on
04/26/2004 1:16:53 PM PDT
by
threat matrix
('For my brother, and my country.' Ranger Pat Tillman to Sgt. Bush)
To: LibWhacker
Fourtunately you are wrong.
There will always be young men like Pat Tillman around when America needs them.
To: nuffsenuff
Ok. So as someone who did not see what he actually said, what did he say on Saturday? He whined about the Washington Redskins picking someone over him. The Cleveland Browns, who had the next pick, selected him. He said the Skins "lied to his face" about wanting to choose him and that they would "...get theirs. It's coming."
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posted on
04/26/2004 1:18:00 PM PDT
by
L.N. Smithee
(Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I don't think for myself)
To: L.N. Smithee
Thanks.
That kid has a serious problem. I mean he's talented and all, but he's in for a rude awakening. I hope that his knee isn't too messed up when a lineman rolls up on it. 'Cause you know it's in the cards...
To: Jimmy Valentine's brother
Not if DU scum are allowed to continue shirking their duty.
To: johnfrink
----Exactly. Tillman refused to give interviews about serving in the Army, and it's slightly ironic that everyone is now going around talking about all kinds of public tributes to the guy, when the evidence seems to show that public adulation is the last thing Tillman would want.
IMO, that's the true mark of a hero.----
Which is what makes everyone want to display their respect to him all the more. Simeon Rice is an idiot.
To: motzman
No way. Not with that un-biased edumacation system down there in Columbia, MO....
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posted on
04/26/2004 1:25:06 PM PDT
by
ApesForEvolution
(FREE 3D On-line Golf Game - Independent Reseller of the Week: http://egolfinternational.com/wig)
To: dead
I beg your pardon then. I'm moving too fast through too much, not paying close enough attention.
Thank you.
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posted on
04/26/2004 1:26:06 PM PDT
by
onedoug
To: NittanyLion
Would it bother you if I get weepy eyed whenever one of our fighters is killed? I know they volunteered,but I am grateful for their service and mindful it is my country they fight for.
They were choosing to watch my back and I am humbled to be served by such warriors as these.
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posted on
04/26/2004 1:29:08 PM PDT
by
MEG33
(John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
To: L.N. Smithee
Even more telling about Tillman's character was that he turned down an offer from the Rams, who were Super Bowl contenders to stay with the Arizona Cardinals for less money. And let's face it, out of the 32 teams, the last team most players would want to play for is the Cardinals, where they are lucky to get 30,000 a game. He felt loyalty to the Cardinals because they were the ones who took a chance on him out of college.
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posted on
04/26/2004 1:30:39 PM PDT
by
dfwgator
To: MEG33
Would it bother you if I get weepy eyed whenever one of our fighters is killed? I know they volunteered,but I am grateful for their service and mindful it is my country they fight for. Not at all. But would it be meaningful for Winslow to insert himself publicly into the Tillman story, or rather would it be self-serving? Tillman himself didn't want to draw attention to the story.
To: dead
"I don't know why he doesn't just say them himself, rather than chastising two other people for not speaking his thoughts for him."
So true. I get so tired of "journalists" who insist on telling the world what others should have done.
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posted on
04/26/2004 1:34:43 PM PDT
by
KJacob
To: LibWhacker
The problem with the draft is that you end up with a lot of unmotivated people in the military. With an all-volunteer army, you're dealing with a lot of people who not only don't want to be there (similar to draftees in our other wars), but also actively oppose the aims of the military (unlike, say, WWII draftees, but similar to Vietnam-era draftees). Which causes problems that affect military readiness. There's a reason why the military embraced the all-volunteer concept.
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posted on
04/26/2004 1:36:12 PM PDT
by
RonF
To: WinOne4TheGipper
Will people please leave Eli Manning alone? I'm sick of it. He looked into San Diego. He asked league sources. He decided he didn't want to spend 10 years on a team that wasn't motivated to win, being crushed by a 250 pound line backer on every play. You wouldn't either.I don't have as much a problem with Manning as I do Winslow, but if he didn't want to spend "10 years" with the Chargers, let him sign a one or two year contract, and see if they can't shore up the O-line. Oh, and one more thing: No one wants to be crushed by a 250 lb. -- unless they are being paid more in one season then their father earned for several. Like Super Chicken said to his hapless sidekick Fred, "You knew the job was dangerous when you took it."
I don't think it is fair to suggest that the Chargers are the equivalent of the Archie-era Saints. The Chargers have been up and down over the years, but they have several Hall of Famers (Alworth, Fouts, Winslow Sr., someday Seau), AFC championship game losses, and one Super Bowl appearance to their credit. Those N.O. teams were bottom-feeders year after year, and never experienced a lick of glory until their TWENTIETH season, finishing above .500 for the first time and nearly winning the NFC West. Can Archie blame all that on everyone but him? Get real.
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posted on
04/26/2004 1:36:49 PM PDT
by
L.N. Smithee
(Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I don't think for myself)
To: onedoug
No problem at all. I do the same thing continuously. 8-)
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posted on
04/26/2004 1:37:52 PM PDT
by
dead
(I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
To: MEG33
"Would it bother you if I get weepy eyed whenever one of our fighters is killed?"Only if you conveniently go all misty-eyed on national television.
What you do in your own home is between you, God, and Kleenex.
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posted on
04/26/2004 1:40:51 PM PDT
by
Redbob
To: L.N. Smithee
The Chargers have not been to the playoffs for ten long years, even in the age of parity. They have not made an effort to improve and what's worse is that it's turning into a black hole for quarterbacks. If you had thirty- two options as an employer, would you even consider this one? And also, you must remember that none of the Mannings complained when Peyton was selected by the horrible Colts. Look where they are now. Unfortunately, that will happen with the Giants (Cowboys fan speaking).
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