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Army rushing more armored Humvees to Iraq
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Posted on 04/25/2004 11:49:42 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
Edited on 07/06/2004 6:39:39 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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To: Sub-Driver; TexKat
A little late.
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posted on
04/25/2004 11:51:27 AM PDT
by
MEG33
(John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
To: MEG33
Better late, than never. I'm sure John Skerry would have looked in his crystal ball and forseen this. Hillary knew about these problems as long ago as 1974, before the first Hummers were even built.
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posted on
04/25/2004 12:00:29 PM PDT
by
kylaka
(The Clintons are the democRATS crack cocaine. They know they're bad for them, they just can't stop.)
To: Sub-Driver
I would prefer to see the Navy rush some submarine launched arms there...by air and under their own propulsion.
To: Sub-Driver
Forget defense.....lets get on the offense again....
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posted on
04/25/2004 12:21:22 PM PDT
by
joesnuffy
(Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
To: Eagle Eye; mike1sg; historian1944; Steel Wolf; Justa; American in Israel; American Soldier; ...
ping
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posted on
04/25/2004 12:26:03 PM PDT
by
Cannoneer No. 4
(I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)
To: Sub-Driver
I have been searching to substantiate the information that I heard on FoxNews last night. In a report about Tillman's death they reported that one of their military consultant's lost his son night before last in an accident while he was training at Ft. Bragg. He was in Special Forces. I think it was Paul Vallely's son. Have you seen a report of that on Free Republic? I have searched every search engine I know.
Thanks,
Joy
To: archy; Gringo1; Matthew James; Fred Mertz; Squantos; colorado tanker; The Shrew; SLB; Darksheare; ..
ping
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posted on
04/25/2004 12:34:12 PM PDT
by
Cannoneer No. 4
(I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)
To: Cannoneer No. 4
thanks.
funny... I recall reading of "up-armored" Hummers back in the early '90's.
did clintoon (and flipper) not think it wise to buy them in bulk?
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posted on
04/25/2004 12:38:55 PM PDT
by
King Prout
(poets and philosophers should NEVER pretend to Engineering... especially SOCIAL Engineering!)
To: Sub-Driver
"Then we started checking whether we still had our 10 fingers on," Monti recalled of the recent ambush south of Baghdad.
I know how it feels. After running a river we’d always check for limbs and leaks.
Yep! Two arms, two legs - and no leaks.
It was a very good feeling - actually a high - when the check was OK.
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posted on
04/25/2004 12:51:55 PM PDT
by
R. Scott
(Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
To: Sub-Driver
The
M1114 Up Armored HMMWV is just a standard HMMWV that has been modified in the same way that armored limousines for executive protection are modified. A major shortcoming of this approach is the flat undercarriage .
Purpose-built armored vehicles usually have V-shaped hulls which deflect blast away from the crew compartment instead of taking up through the floorboards.
The Army has a vehicle superior to the M1114 for Stability and Security Operations, the M1117, but they have chosen not to buy anymore.
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posted on
04/25/2004 12:52:49 PM PDT
by
Cannoneer No. 4
(I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)
To: King Prout
Cold-War Thinking Prevented Vital Vehicle From Reaching Iraq answers some of that question.
The M1114 is the MP vehicle. The people crying out for M1114's were never authorized to have them before. They have been tasked to perform MP functions and want the MP ride. They are a number of superior vehicles we could be buying.
Check out the keywords. Many keystrokes devoted to this topic in the last 6 months.
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posted on
04/25/2004 12:58:24 PM PDT
by
Cannoneer No. 4
(I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)
To: Sub-Driver
This report is just a staging move not intended for Iraq. Looks like Syria and Iran are next on the hit parade; these are not needed for the operations in Iraq. Something big is in the offing and it looks like it will be sooner rather than later.
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posted on
04/25/2004 1:06:39 PM PDT
by
winker
To: Sub-Driver
Are surplus HUMVEE's for sale yet at DPDO auctions?
To: MEG33
Not really.
Nobody ever thought we'd be stupid enough to use the HMMWV platform as a patrolling vehicle in urban areas. At its farthest limit, it was an adequate weapons carrier for light and Airborne forces.
If we want to fault the Army, we should be asking why they never invested in a dedicated platform like those being used (very effectively) by our allies.
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posted on
04/25/2004 1:28:46 PM PDT
by
SJSAMPLE
To: SJSAMPLE; Cannoneer No. 4
I know people make mistakes when planning for the future but of course our military on the ground pays.I hope something is learned,a dear price is being paid for the lesson.
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posted on
04/25/2004 1:35:52 PM PDT
by
MEG33
(John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
To: AUsome Joy
I have not heard of this. God, I hope it's not true.
To: AUsome Joy; backhoe; Criminal Number 18F; Future Snake Eater; Iris7; Ranger; RANGERAIRBORNE; ...
I have been searching to substantiate the information that
I heard on FoxNews last night. In a report about Tillman's death they reported that one of their military consultant's lost his son night before last in an accident while he was training at Ft. Bragg. He was in Special Forces. I think it was Paul Vallely's son. Have you seen a report of that on Free Republic? I have searched every search engine I know. Thanks,
Joy
Snakeeaters' ping! This is family, folks- anyone heard anything?
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posted on
04/25/2004 2:48:29 PM PDT
by
archy
(The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
To: Cannoneer No. 4
Thanks for the ping. Those in our house are praying DAILY for all our brave warriors who are fighting against the religion of death.
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posted on
04/25/2004 3:26:55 PM PDT
by
Humidston
(You heard it here - BUSH/RICE - 2004)
To: AUsome Joy
He was in the Q course, which means he was under going the selection process, only son.
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posted on
04/25/2004 3:44:17 PM PDT
by
dts32041
("Liberty is not America's gift to the world, it is God's gift to humanity" George W Bush 28 Jan 2003)
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