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ONLY BUSH CAN SAVE EUROPE
The Spectator.co.uk ^
| 24 April 2004
| Mark Steyn
Posted on 04/24/2004 6:27:20 PM PDT by A CONSERVATIVE ONE
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I posted it the full aricle just in case the link is missed.
To: A CONSERVATIVE ONE
She was passing a condom boutique, its window filled with various revolting novelty prophylactics, cum rags, etc. It was a perfect snapshot of the internal contradictions of multicultural diversity. In 30 years time, either the Arab lady will still be there, or the condom store, but not both. Which would you bet on? National Reviews John Derbyshire wrote last week about a 1945 solution for Iraq. This is shorthand for the bombing of Dresden, the nuking of Hiroshima, etc. the sort of stern measures that let an enemy know hes well and truly whipped. But, as Mr Derbyshire points out, war abroad is determined by culture at home, and if we were fighting the second world war today, we wouldnt nuke Hiroshima or even intern Japanese-Americans: the culture will not permit it. Nor will it permit old-school imperialism. Culturally sensitive nation-building is as aggressive as you can get these days. So Bush has gone for the only big-picture scenario available.
Can someone tell me what Steyn here likes or hates?
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posted on
04/24/2004 6:37:04 PM PDT
by
Burkeman1
("I said the government can't help you. I didn't say it couldn't hurt you." Chief Wiggam)
To: Burkeman1
Well, in the first instance, I'd say he hates both the burkaed woman AND the condom shop. But he's pointing out that the liberal readers who are so eager to support the terrorist cause had better worry about their condom supply.
In the second instance, he's simply pointing out that in different times the political constraints on waging war are different. Whether or not nuking Hiroshima was a good idea is a matter he doesn't really get into. Whatever you think of it, it's not possible just now.
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posted on
04/24/2004 6:45:54 PM PDT
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: A CONSERVATIVE ONE
Ironically, the Birthplace of western cuturle is rejecting the very ideals that made it dominant, while the rising nations are accepting it.
While Russia is embracing it's Orthodox hertige.
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posted on
04/24/2004 6:46:38 PM PDT
by
John Will
To: A CONSERVATIVE ONE
During good times, populations tend to increase, according to the fundamental tenets of population biology. The population of Europeans in Europe is decreasing steadily, indicating that they are NOT enjoying good times. Although Europeans generally are physically healthy and long-lived, they must be struggling and desperately unhealthy. What's their problem? What makes Europeans so infertile? It's an almost unprecedented mental disease spreading in epidemic proportions: liberalism.
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posted on
04/24/2004 6:46:42 PM PDT
by
dufekin
(Eliminate genocidal terrorist military dictator Kim Jong Il ASAP)
To: Cicero
Good analysis.
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posted on
04/24/2004 6:48:39 PM PDT
by
Burkeman1
("I said the government can't help you. I didn't say it couldn't hurt you." Chief Wiggam)
To: Burkeman1
I think he's saying many more people will have to be slaughtered before we come to our senses and unfortunately, he's right.
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posted on
04/24/2004 6:53:37 PM PDT
by
lizma
To: A CONSERVATIVE ONE; Burkeman1
Islam will never accept pluralist, liberal democracy. Shut the borders kick out these barely civilized scum and ban most abortions.
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posted on
04/24/2004 6:57:19 PM PDT
by
Destro
(Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
To: A CONSERVATIVE ONE
Thanks for posting.
To: Destro
Contain, preserve, and renew. Not occupy, spend, and decay.
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posted on
04/24/2004 7:01:33 PM PDT
by
Burkeman1
("I said the government can't help you. I didn't say it couldn't hurt you." Chief Wiggam)
To: lizma
Right how? Senses? That we will slaughter a thousand times those who died on 9/11 in Iraq and other countries that had nothing to do with that crime?
The Moslem World is not Nazi Germany. It is not the Soviet Union. They manufacture nearly nothing. Other than oil they sell us nothing. They can't even manufacter a fighter jet (much less even a prop plane) that could threaten us.
And yet this part of the world is a "threat" to us?
How and why?
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posted on
04/24/2004 7:19:16 PM PDT
by
Burkeman1
("I said the government can't help you. I didn't say it couldn't hurt you." Chief Wiggam)
To: A CONSERVATIVE ONE
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posted on
04/24/2004 7:28:18 PM PDT
by
maica
To: John Will
While Russia is embracing it's Orthodox hertige. An increase from close to zero attendance of churches to a few persons is a significant increase. But you've got to wait and see whether "embracing" is really what's happening here.
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posted on
04/24/2004 7:30:16 PM PDT
by
TopQuark
To: Burkeman1
Conventional warefare is only one part of the stregnth of any one people.
Great cultures throughout the centuries died from within, i.e. low birth rates, decline of national purpose, generational decline in promoting and preserving their identity and educational system, etc.
The influx of a different culture, typically with higher birthrates, usually accelerates the host culture's decline.
The barbarians are at the gate!
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posted on
04/24/2004 7:30:21 PM PDT
by
wrathof59
(semper ubi sub ubi)
To: Burkeman1
You are right. The muslim world is NOT Nazi Germany. However, if Hitler could have conceived of the 72-virgins-in-paradise ruse and foisted it on his military, the outcome of the war may have been different.
Islamists have swallowed the cool-aid, and there's no turning back. They have to be stopped. Period.
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posted on
04/24/2004 7:33:46 PM PDT
by
ImaGraftedBranch
('Train up a child in the way that they should go and when they are old they will not depart from it')
To: Burkeman1
God Damn, if that is not the best encapsulated policy statement I have ever seen in my life.
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posted on
04/24/2004 7:35:33 PM PDT
by
Destro
(Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
To: wrathof59
Yes- I agree 100%! And yet we waste our resources in these fruitless invasions and empire builing? And meanwhile conservatives are told (yet again) that we must suffer "Big government" to fight this threat and compromise with the Liberals at home. And they are not exactely opposed to this war either.
Meanwhile conservatives are split, our culture decays and becomes even more hedonistic as the temporary benefits of Empire feed our unearned desires and undermine our very beliefs.
Empire is the death of every nation in history.
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posted on
04/24/2004 7:38:30 PM PDT
by
Burkeman1
("I said the government can't help you. I didn't say it couldn't hurt you." Chief Wiggam)
To: ImaGraftedBranch
Actually Hitler did- not with virgins but with "nordic" notions of "heroism". Germans fought to the death routinely and even had suicide bombers in planes against the Russian front at the end of the war.
So did the Russians as well have such suicide bombers and chargers.
As disgusting as these attacks against American, Israeli, Turkish, Saudi, and now Iraqi civilians are- they are nothing to the carnage of world war II.
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posted on
04/24/2004 7:44:37 PM PDT
by
Burkeman1
("I said the government can't help you. I didn't say it couldn't hurt you." Chief Wiggam)
To: Destro
Cyber Japanese bow of thanks for such praise!
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posted on
04/24/2004 7:49:26 PM PDT
by
Burkeman1
("I said the government can't help you. I didn't say it couldn't hurt you." Chief Wiggam)
To: A CONSERVATIVE ONE
Steyn Bump. Thanks for posting the whole article. Tough business beating q to the post-time.
FMCDH
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posted on
04/24/2004 7:54:10 PM PDT
by
nothingnew
(KERRY: "If at first you don't deceive, lie, lie again!")
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