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Corrupt Bargain in Houston Light Rail Contracts (FR Original Find)
4/23/04 | me

Posted on 04/23/2004 10:47:01 AM PDT by GOPcapitalist

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To: XBob
If you can drive 65 freely at rush hour, you are definitely getting "highway" and not "city" mileage.
221 posted on 04/29/2004 6:05:58 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: GOPcapitalist
...yet others who remember what got posted there. Some of them have already corrected your libelous allegations

Who do you think you're kidding slick? Nobody has stepped up and said they saw your original post in Texas chat seven months ago. You pinged them, where are they?

222 posted on 04/29/2004 8:05:10 AM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu l’aidera)
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To: mac_truck; GOPcapitalist
Mac, you are nothing more than a deranged weirdo (and btw GOPc, thanks for bringing your stalker with you everywhere you go). Rather than acknowledge, or at least reply directly to the thrashing you've been administered, you continue with your sick delusions and again refer to me as some sort of double for GOPc ("persona"). You don't even have the guts to ping me on it. Nevermind that I've been a member of Free Republic for more than a year; clearly I'm just a figment of GOP's imagination. What a moron.

It isn't enough for you to sit and baselessly deny every statement or bit of evidence contrary to your deranged ranting; call everyone a liar when they prove you wrong; demand immediate proof of every fact to which you are ignorant (good God - that could fill several libraries, I’m sorry - "liberries" as they're probably known in your mobile home "community"); apparently the only resort left to you is to deny that the person kicking your sorry rear even exists! What genius! Everyone on FR could learn from you. Don't like being soundly refuted and proven to be an ignorant stump? No problem! Just deny that the other person exists! Wow, this solution isn't limited to FR, it could make up your whole approach to life. “Deny, deny, deny” as another creep famously put it.

Also, I can’t help wondering how it makes you feel clever to punctuate every post with “lol”? Yeah, I guess that might seem cute to a twelve year old. Grow up.

What a sad pathetic troll you are. Go back to your hole. You are not worthy to debate here.

And GOPc, don’t hold your breath waiting for this loser to verify anything with Houston Review, or to verify anything at all for that matter. He didn’t even know there was such a thing as a state forum nor have the ability to find it for himself. I wouldn’t waste anymore time trying to convince someone who lacks the cognitive capacity to follow a simple logical argument or even the basic ability to independently research a claim. All his childish “Prove it” demands are just a thin disguise for a small, inadequate mind.
And remember, a troll is usually just some loser in a cramped cubicle who hates life, but loves the anonymity of online forums where he can pretend to be a big man.
223 posted on 04/29/2004 10:00:18 AM PDT by YCTHouston
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To: mac_truck
Who do you think you're kidding slick? Nobody has stepped up and said they saw your original post in Texas chat seven months ago.

YCT did and you've been telling him ever since that he's a figment of my imagination. HC did and you simply ignored him.

224 posted on 04/29/2004 10:27:40 AM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: YCTHouston; mac_truck
Wow, this solution isn't limited to FR, it could make up your whole approach to life.

John Kerry....BEGONE! Nope, wait. He's still there. Must not work. Too bad.

225 posted on 04/29/2004 10:30:27 AM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: Hermann the Cherusker; GOPcapitalist
Oh man! A company gave money to a political campaign?

Heaven forbid that the most qualified contractors ever support issues that affect them.
Heck, if GOPcapitalist wants to ban "corporate free speech", we can start by restricting what corrupt global companies like WalMart, Ford, GM, Archer-Daniels, PepsiCo, oil companies and financial institutions, etc, etc. donate to the Cato Institute.

Gag 'em all. Stop the corrupt corporate propaganda once and for all!!!

Good "find", GOPcapitalist!
We gotta root out this corruption whereever it rears its ugly head.
Thank goodness you're so vigilant. </sarcasm>

226 posted on 04/29/2004 10:46:14 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
Heaven forbid that the most qualified contractors ever support issues that affect them.

What makes you think that STV is the most qualified, Willie? Most politically connected, sure. But they bungled Phase I and had to resort to political peddling to get Phase II...not exactly the measure of "qualification" one usually looks for.

Heck, if GOPcapitalist wants to ban "corporate free speech"

Where did I say to ban corporate free speech? That's right. Nowhere. I did say that STV had a blatant CONFLICT OF INTEREST in contributing to a political referendum PAC - not a candidate mind you but a referendum PAC - that was advocating a bond from which it was virtually guaranteed to directly benefit.

Your tu quoquery makes a pretty lousy, albeit unwavering, case for STV's corrupt bargaining. Plunkitt would be proud of you.

227 posted on 04/29/2004 11:03:10 AM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist
What makes you think that STV is the most qualified, Willie?

What makes you think that they aren't?

You haven't made any comparison to other, more qualifed contractors (if any) whatsoever.
All you've done is soiled your panties and ranted about STV's legal lobbying activities.
Big whoop.

Frankly, I think your biased sensationalism on this issue is as whacky is that practiced by morons like Sarah Brady and PETA. It makes me embarassed to be associated with such so-called "conservatives".

228 posted on 04/29/2004 11:18:52 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: GOPcapitalist
What makes you think that STV is the most qualified, Willie?

Furthermore, as the original contractor, they're the ONLY contractor that has already been through the learning curve and has intimate, first-hand experience with the detailed project specifications. It is a natural advantage for subsequent extensions of the project that obstructionists, such as yourself, will always attempt to vehemently deny.

229 posted on 04/29/2004 11:32:24 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
Furthermore, as the original contractor, they're the ONLY contractor that has already been through the learning curve

Not in this case. Metro exhibits all the classic economic conditions of what we call a lazy monopoly combined with all the worst elements of bureaucratic rigidity (meaning their bureaucracy inhibits any efficiency-minded change that would otherwise take place). There is accordingly very little learning curve gain if any at all.

230 posted on 04/29/2004 1:27:56 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: Willie Green
What makes you think that they aren't?

Cause unlike you, I've seen the downright crappy product of their work on Phase I. Oh, and I've also studied the specifications of what they did in greater detail than most transit professionals in the entire Houston area, much less yourself, and can say with that authority that they too are crappy. Come back when you have a clue what you are ranting about, Willie, cause right now you don't. You simply see "Metrorail=train=good" and because of that insurmountable bias you are unfit to honestly evaluate its specifications or politics.

231 posted on 04/29/2004 1:35:44 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist
Metro exhibits all the classic economic conditions of what we call a lazy monopoly

Call it whatever you want...
But realize that's ALL you're doing... same ol' partisan namecalling and mudslinging...
Let us know if you ever discover actual evidence of a scandal...
until then, you're just another disenchanted, sensationlist, crybaby whiner who's clamoring for attention.
Come up with some kind of substance if you wanna claim a "FR Original Find".
As it now stands, even the chemtrail and black helicopter crowd had more credible evidence than what you have.

232 posted on 04/29/2004 1:42:25 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
But realize that's ALL you're doing... same ol' partisan namecalling and mudslinging...

Such as?

Let us know if you ever discover actual evidence of a scandal...

Already have. A firm with a blatant CONFLICT OF INTEREST bankrolled the narrow victory on a bond referendum from which they are the direct beneficiaries to the tune of 61 million dollars. See above for the details and documentation.

233 posted on 04/29/2004 2:33:40 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist
A firm with a blatant CONFLICT OF INTEREST bankrolled...

Your so-called "conflict of interest" is nonexistant.
The contractors are well within their rights to legally lobby for funding of projects on which they expect to work.
You're simply whining because you were on the losing side of the referendum.
Yep, ol' GOP "capitalist" proves to be just another SoreLoserman. How sad.
I bet you think it's "scandalous" that Cheney went duck hunting with Scalia as well.

234 posted on 04/29/2004 2:54:15 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Fester Chugabrew; lentulusgracchus
"I'm mad too, Eddie!"
235 posted on 04/29/2004 2:56:28 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I shall defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: flashbunny
Why? Because if there really was a demand to have these things, private industry would be chomping at the bit to build and run them.

Yup. What Private Industry wants to do is run jitneys (vans, basically), but that would threaten the government monopoly on hack license fees and mass transit funding, so they're not allowed to do that.
236 posted on 04/29/2004 3:03:54 PM PDT by johnb838 ("I really don't care; they're all gonna die," US Marine in Fallujah)
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To: Willie Green
Your so-called "conflict of interest" is nonexistant. The contractors are well within their rights to legally lobby for funding of projects on which they expect to work.

No Willie. That's called whoring oneself to the system. IF legal it is only marginally so, and in the ethical sense it is wholly fraudulent. What STV did ranks right up there with the city councilman who gives pothole repair contracts to his brother in law. Despite what your bizarre civics education may have taught you, there is no such thing as an ethical graft. A graft is a graft is a graft and the Metro-STV crowd grafted.

You're simply whining because you were on the losing side of the referendum.

Well, considering that I was defrauded of my right to vote in that election by ballot thiefs in the post office, and considering that its margin of victory was achieved by ethically conflicted campaign contributions, I'd say I have every right in the world to complain about its outcome. Do you deny that I am entitled to object when election impropriety occurs and when part of that impropriety directly and adversely impacts my constitutional rights as a citizen?

237 posted on 04/29/2004 3:05:25 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist
Do you deny that I am entitled to object when election impropriety occurs and when part of that impropriety directly and adversely impacts my constitutional rights as a citizen?

What? Are you finally gonna come out of the closet and start whining about hanging chads and how Bush oughta be impeached?

Seems to me that your screenname is the only thing that's fraudulent on this thread.

If you have any REAL evidence of corrupt practices by STV, such as providing kickbacks to the bureaucrats who awarded the contracts, go ahead and present the facts. But your whining about STV's legal advocacy of the bond issue is nothing but boring baloney.

Ciao.

238 posted on 04/29/2004 5:38:19 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: GOPcapitalist
HC did and you simply ignored him.

Go back and read post 189 . He didn't say one word about reading anything from you about the Metro Bond referendum in Texas chat. Your whole (posting sequence) story is pure-D bullcrap and your credibility here is zero.

Face it loser, you ripped off an article from a student monthly thinking the rubes on here wouldn't figure it out. Only a rat would stoop so low, but then that description fits you to a tee.

-btw I think its great that your alter ego sticks up for you. (lol). Perhaps a bit more investigation of your two posting habits is in order.

239 posted on 04/29/2004 6:26:48 PM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu l’aidera)
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To: mac_truck; YCTHouston; HoustonCurmudgeon
Go back and read post 189 .

From Post 189:

"Dear Truck, I will say this about you, you're a persistent a$$. While GOPc and I have never met I do know who he is and have several personal and political friends who know him from the Harris County GOP. We have emailed, FReepmailed and posted to each other for a couple of years and I know most of his positions well. He is straight forward and will give you a reason for all his positions and while I do not always agree, he is without doubt one of the most informed members of the GOP in SE Texas."

In other words, it's a general statement of a confidence in what I say combined with a plainly stated characterization of you in a less than flattering light, and I must say that i agree with HC wholeheartedly. Go ask YCT for a specific eyewitness on the Texas forum if you desire. He's already told you several times and your only response is to pretend that he isn't real.

Face it loser, you ripped off an article from a student monthly thinking the rubes on here wouldn't figure it out.

Wrong again. As I told you, I was the one who first informed them, first informed TTM and first informed several other sources. The Houston Review was the first to bite. Doubt me? Go ahead then and write them a letter or send them an email. Ask them if they got the list of Metro contractors from a freeper named GOPcapitalist. If they are kind enough to reply they will say "yes" without hesitation. Why do I know that they will say this? Because I sent the stuff to them and they know I sent it to them.

-btw I think its great that your alter ego sticks up for you. (lol). Perhaps a bit more investigation of your two posting habits is in order.

Investigate all you like. Heck, you can even look up the recent thread on a texas congressional race where the two of us got into a heated argument over a candidate.

HC and YCT: Courtesy ping.

240 posted on 04/29/2004 10:05:21 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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