60th Anniversary Normandy Invasion

Stephen Ambrose Historical Tours ^ | 04/20/2004 | Euro-American Scum

[Euro-American Scum]

NRA2BFree, check your Freepmail.

[billorites]

I'd be there, but I've not been well.

[ALOHA RONNIE]

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A Lion in Winter =

Sgt/Major BASIL L. PLUMLEY


-Jumped into Nazi-occupied France the night before the NORMANDY Invasion

-Fought in the last Major Battle of the Korean War on PORK CHOP HILL

-Fought in the 1st Major Battle of the Vietnam War in the IA DRANG Valley


See:

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_collection.htm
(IA DRANG Photos/Photo Set #3 = PLUMLEY at Pleiku, Vietnam during the Fight at Landing Zone Albany)

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[LiberationIT]

Bon voyage. I've been there three times, starting in Deauville/Trouville sur Mer twice. The coast is awe inspiring; the American Cemetery will move you to tears (assuming you react as I did.)

The mixed feeling of pride and sadness is extraordinary.

At the West end there is a German cemetery, moving in its own way.

The Canadian hallowed ground by Dieppe defies description.

Were I to return to France, I'd go again and again.

Please let us know about your experiences.

[BluSky]

My wife's father (age 79) served in WW II and landed on Utah Beach. To me, he is a great American.

We are taking him to France in 3 weeks - we're going early as to avoid the large crowds.

He was with the 80th Infantry, 319th Regiment. We are flying into Paris then with rental car, driving out to Caen. This way, we figure, we have wheels and can go where we need to.

We plan to re-trace his route across France (St. Lo, Falaise, Argentan, Orleans, Troyes, Chalons de-Champagne, to Luxenbourg and Luxenbourg City to Bastogne [Battle of the Bulge] and Ardennes area, Bitburg, Germany and back to Paris).

We are very much looking forward to this experience. Oh my, the stories he tells.

We expect to be overwhelmed with emotion the entire trip.

We are in the process of arranging a tour of the Normandy beaches, bunkers and area but, have not had success at finding anything. There are many tours but, we don't want the 'commercial' tour. We're looking for a private tour that is flexible with their schedule.

Enjoy your experience.

[NRA2BFree]

Thanks for the ping! I'm very happy/excited for you. I know this trip is something you have dreamed about for a long time. I'm sure you'll have a great time. How could you miss. ;-)

Tell all the Veterans that I said "Thank you, for giving us all the Freedom that we enjoy today and for serving in our Military." A big thanks to you for serving in our Military too. God Bless ALL the Veterans and ALL of our active soldiers.

We'll be expecting to see some pictures when you get back. ;-) You can bring me something too. A while flag. I want my very own French Surrender Flag. LOL! I'm sure they have a lot of them.

[ken5050]

I'm sure you'll have a memorable trip. I've been three times, years ago,late 60's, when I was stationed in Spain....what was most remarkable to me was great love that the locals, who at the time, most lived through the occupation and the invasion, had for les americains

[Petronski]

Best way to get there from Deauville? Tour bus and/or rental car. I don't think you'll get a car anywhere near the important sites on an anniversary, especially one with a round number. Thus, you'll drive as close as you can and then walk or take a shuttle bus. I've never 'been' on an anniversary, but I gotta believe they'll have some means of moving people up and down the coast.

A 'long' distance tour bus, direct from Deauville or Caen or Le Havre will have an itinerary and take you from site to site on a schedule. If that suits your temperment, fine. I'm allergic to crowds and I personally hate being led about on schedule. I'd hate it.

On the other hand, I would never go on an occasion like this. My visit was in the first week of October, 1999. Very small crowds (some hotels closed outright).

As for the E46 (running from Bayeux up the cotentin peninsula to St. Mere Eglise--must see), it is four lane limited access, like an interstate, but not as fast as the A-14 or A-15.

On that road, you'll pass "Isigny-sur-Mer," ancestral home of Walt Disney (Disney is actually D'Isigny [say 'deez-NYEE'). I have no way to know where his homestead is, but his family was from that town, where a major dairy processes milk for the region.

I'm working from memory, so your mileage may vary.

More specific questions? Ask away.

[Euro-American Scum]

A 'long' distance tour bus, direct from Deauville or Caen or Le Havre will have an itinerary and take you from site to site on a schedule. If that suits your temperment, fine. I'm allergic to crowds and I personally hate being led about on schedule. I'd hate it.

There were a couple of factors that led to my going now. Like you, I hate the idea of the choreography. But I had to temper that with the desire to participate in the last ceremony honoring the Americans who crossed the beaches, scaled the cliffs, and parachuted in behind enemy lines. That couldn't be accomplished at any other time.

Then there is a family connection to the campaign as well. My father (501st PIR, 101st Airborne Div.) and uncle (51st AIB, 4th Armored Div.) were also heavily involved. And while my dad has been gone for many years, my uncle has been after me to get a picture of one of his childhood friends killed on D-Day and buried in the American cemetery there. Again, this could wait, but for the fact that my uncle is 84 and in failing health.

I'm hoping the avoid the problem that happens with big crowds -- namely that the whole thing degenerates into just another tourist trap. Especially when it's so much more than that. I've never seen this so starkly contrasted as in DC. For some reason, the Lincoln Memorial and -- of all places -- the Kennedy grave are little more than bus stops on the tour. But the Tomb of the Unknowns and the Vietnam Memorial seem to engender an inherent dignity and respect that the others don't. And that's amazing considering the close proximity they are to each other. Hopefully I'll be able to avoid this phenomenon in Normandy. But it's an imperfect world, so I'll take what comes.

All I ask is to get down on that beach at 0600 on 6 June. Hopefully I'll beat the crowds. And that will be enough.

[Euro-American Scum]

The coast is awe inspiring; the American Cemetery will move you to tears (assuming you react as I did.)

Just reading and hearing about it moves me to tears.

[Euro-American Scum]

We plan to re-trace his route across France (St. Lo, Falaise, Argentan, Orleans, Troyes, Chalons de-Champagne, to Luxenbourg and Luxenbourg City to Bastogne [Battle of the Bulge] and Ardennes area, Bitburg, Germany and back to Paris). We are very much looking forward to this experience. Oh my, the stories he tells.

Sounds like the path of Patton's Third Army. And you're fortunate he opened up to you. My father never said a word to anyone about anything, except to grumble that the only good German was a dead German. He never got over hating them, right to the end.

We expect to be overwhelmed with emotion the entire trip.

As do I.

[Euro-American Scum]

You can bring me something too. A while flag. I want my very own French Surrender Flag. LOL! I'm sure they have a lot of them.

I told you about the commemorative parachute jump they're having the afternoon of June 6. I'm sure the French will be completely prepared for it, white flag and all.

[Ready4Freddy]

My brother & sisters & I will be accompanying my uncle and some of his wife's family, we'll be there June 1 - June 9. At 22, my uncle was the 'old man' in his unit. This will indeed be the last hoorah for many of these vets.

[oyez]

I got to tour USS LST-325 last summer. It was a nice to chance to reflect al little of what it may have been to be there.

[nutmeg]

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[Ready4Freddy]

BTW, my uncle was 3rd Armored Div (Spearhead). They landed 6/24/44, and fought through the hedgerows that June & July. His unit was caught in a night firefight with Panzers outside of Orleans Aug 14 night - Aug 15 AM. He was the only survivor, lost his right arm.

[Euro-American Scum]

BTW, my uncle was 3rd Armored Div (Spearhead). They landed 6/24/44, and fought through the hedgerows that June & July. His unit was caught in a night firefight with Panzers outside of Orleans Aug 14 night - Aug 15 AM. He was the only survivor, lost his right arm.

They really were an extraordinaly generation of Americans.

[BluSky]

He was not with Patton's 3rd Army but, they crossed paths several times according to him.

He has only recently opened up to us and is truly a changed man for doing so. We have heard many times, as in your situation with your father, many WW II vets kept it bottled up and refused to talk about their experiences.

He expressed interest in 'closing the loop', as he said, and wished to return to France and re-trace many of the places he had been and fought.

He knew of other vets that are now departed, that expressed interest in going over to Europe (ETO) and Normandy but never did. They have all expressed regret for not going. My father in-law did not want that to happen to him.

We feel blessed that we will be able to make this trip happen.

He does tell the story of Patton's explicit request to encircle a very large contingent of German soldiers at Falaise that would have shortened the war by 6 - 9 months.

Montgomery could not get his units in place in time and this now known as the Falaise gap. Patton wanted to close this gap, capture/destroy the German army where estimates run as high as 800,000 Germans. Instead, the Germans were able to retreat through the gap like a bottleneck and regroup for later battles. Could have saved thousands of American soldiers lives.

He is recounting many of these scenes to us and frequently becomes overwhelmed with emotion, which is a good thing.

Like I said, we very much look forward to this experience and it's not only the experience at stake here it's a person's life and soul that is healing.

[Euro-American Scum]

He does tell the story of Patton's explicit request to encircle a very large contingent of German soldiers at Falaise that would have shortened the war by 6 - 9 months.

The Falaise gap was infamous. Montgomery was nothing less than deliberate in everything he did from El Alamein onward. Eisenhower should have realized this when he (Montgomery) came to him with the Market-Garden plan a few months later. It was folly to put an operation requiring speed, daring and boldness in the hands of a commander who exhibited none of those qualities.