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True friends: Christian right stands up for Israel, Jews
By Abraham Foxman
Chicago Jewish News ^
| 4-20-04
| Abraham Foxman
Posted on 04/20/2004 5:14:46 PM PDT by SJackson
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posted on
04/20/2004 5:14:50 PM PDT
by
SJackson
To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
For those who are interested, an interesting thread on the thoughts of the Democratic faithful.
Correct Democratic position on Israel/Palestine please.
Thank you Abe. For your supporters position on Israel, click the link above.
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posted on
04/20/2004 5:16:41 PM PDT
by
SJackson
( Every generation of Jews has to learn its own Aleph Beis. Ours...to learn how to shoot, Abba Kovner)
To: SJackson
"...conservative Christian perspectives on social issues..." Foxman does't say which of these Christian social "perspectives" he finds most offensive. Is it perhaps abortion? Is it perhaps the belief that the Ten Commandments may be posted on the public square?
To: SJackson
I think I can do without this kind of placation--condescending and downright confusing--from Foxman. Thank you very much.
Weisskopf, Jewish reporter--Washing Post--Evangelicals are "poor, uneducated, and easily led."
Gloria Feldt, who speaks eloquently of her Jewish roots, brings about Planned Parenthood's holiday card "Choice on Earth"--taking the Christmas and Christian holiday to new depths, using the New Testament verse to glorify a death culture.
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posted on
04/20/2004 5:32:33 PM PDT
by
Mamzelle
(for a post-Neo conservatism)
To: SJackson
A guest on the Laura Ingraham radio show put it best when while discussing Jewish-Christian interaction he said,
"America's bible belt IS Israel's safety belt." (or something like that)
I forget the man's name, but it rings absolutely true. By the way, he might have said "Israel's security belt." I was listening out of the corner of my ear when he made the statement.
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posted on
04/20/2004 5:36:06 PM PDT
by
Edit35
To: Mamzelle
"I think I can do without this kind of placation--condescending and downright confusing--from Foxman. Thank you very much."
Ditto!
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posted on
04/20/2004 5:41:08 PM PDT
by
Arpege92
(America and Israel are two countries that were founded on the rejection of Europe. -Dr. M. Azaryahu)
To: SJackson
For those who are interested, an interesting thread on the thoughts of the Democratic faithful. Ahhh...it's been a while since I've peeked in on the DUmmies. They seem to have some delusion about independent thinking, but they respond like the lemmings they are...devoid of wisdom and reasoned thought. Very sad.
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posted on
04/20/2004 5:43:55 PM PDT
by
highlander_UW
("Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Benjamin Franklin)
To: Arpege92
Foxman's nothing but an arrogant
bigot and this article is another
insult from his team of grandstanders. Look at the way it's phrased--"thanks, sorta, for your blood and treasure, but expect no respect or reciprocation."
Bah. enraging
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posted on
04/20/2004 5:48:00 PM PDT
by
Mamzelle
(for a post-Neo conservatism)
To: SJackson
Earth to Foxman: The Torah does not support abortion or the Homosexual deathstyle.
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posted on
04/20/2004 5:53:37 PM PDT
by
rmlew
(Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
To: SJackson
One of the fascinating manifestations of the turmoil over Gibson's film has been to observe many on the left in the Jewish community saying, "We told you how bad evangelicals are,"... For the record, Abe Foxman himself was top of the list of those "many", indeed the lead rabble-rouser. His pretense that his was a balanced approach is rather galling considering his previous behavior. Still, I guess this is the best we'll get as far as a confession that he acted no better than Al Sharption. Passion was Abe Foxman's Crown Heights.
...while many on the Jewish right, in a foolhardy effort to placate the religious right, defend a film with the potential to set back Christian- Jewish relations and to generate anti- Semitism.
Far from being to "placate the religious right", those of us on the Jewish right saw our own liberty at stake - could we not tell the story of the Exodus for fear of the effect it might have on Egyptians? That's ludicrous - no Jew blames today's Egyptians for the events of those long-past days. Well, it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out that's exactly what Foxman was insisting on when he demonized Passion.
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posted on
04/20/2004 6:10:32 PM PDT
by
thoughtomator
(Mahmoud Zahar, step right up! You're the next contestant on "Who wants to field test a Hellfire?")
To: SJackson
Last year an Israeli writer to a liberal Israeli newspaper said that Israelis should accept all the help they can get from American Christians but do it slyly, remembering they are not really Israel's friends. I wrote my own letter to the newspaper in answer, and said such a position is dishonest, deceitful and unworthy of that great little nation. Of course that writer was a socialist, and I don't really expect anything from socialists EXCEPT deceit and dishonesty.
I support Israel because it is a democracy surrounded by a sea of brutal despotism, fighting off barbarians. And I'll continue to support them regardless of the numbskull socialists there.
To: SJackson
Does Abraham Foxman ever glance at the Torah?
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posted on
04/20/2004 6:31:36 PM PDT
by
jwalsh07
(REMEMBER FABRIZIO!)
To: Mamzelle
Exactly! You nailed it!
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posted on
04/20/2004 6:37:12 PM PDT
by
Arpege92
(America and Israel are two countries that were founded on the rejection of Europe. -Dr. M. Azaryahu)
To: thoughtomator
Far from being to "placate the religious right", those of us on the Jewish right saw our own liberty at stake - could we not tell the story of the Exodus for fear of the effect it might have on Egyptians? That's ludicrous - no Jew blames today's Egyptians for the events of those long-past days. I can't comment. Last I heard the Egyptians were contemplating filing a lawsuit against me (In defense of Moses-Egyptians may sue Jews over the Exodus.) over the Exodus incident. They tried it in the court of Alexander, but failed, they're trying it again.
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posted on
04/20/2004 6:38:31 PM PDT
by
SJackson
( Every generation of Jews has to learn its own Aleph Beis. Ours...to learn how to shoot, Abba Kovner)
To: jwalsh07
I've no idea, could be every day, could be once a decade, he's not a religious leader of any sort.
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posted on
04/20/2004 6:39:19 PM PDT
by
SJackson
( Every generation of Jews has to learn its own Aleph Beis. Ours...to learn how to shoot, Abba Kovner)
To: SJackson
He still believes that God understands and condones the murder of innocent, unborn men and women....idiot.
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posted on
04/20/2004 6:41:53 PM PDT
by
ApesForEvolution
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To: SJackson
Whether it is church-state separation- at the heart of the comfort level that Jews enjoy in this country-or opposition to any religious group imposing its views on society-as seen in the struggles to maintain choice on abortion and equal rights for gays-we are deeply concerned about conservative Christian views and policy initiatives. At long bloody last, Dishonest Abe cuts to the chase. It isn't about supposed "anti-semitism", after all. It's about ripping babies into little bloody shreds. Ol' Abe apparently thinks that's a good idea. I most disrespectfully disagree.
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posted on
04/20/2004 6:42:05 PM PDT
by
ArrogantBustard
(Chief Engineer, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemens' Club)
To: SJackson
I've no idea, could be every day, could be once a decade, he's not a religious leader of any sort.Rhetorical question. :-}
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posted on
04/20/2004 6:48:51 PM PDT
by
jwalsh07
(REMEMBER FABRIZIO!)
To: SJackson
Hey Foxman!
encourage sensitivity and education about Jews and Jewish history.
That goes BOTH ways, cookie!!
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posted on
04/20/2004 6:51:24 PM PDT
by
mlmr
(Significant or Trivial)
To: SJackson; yonif; Simcha7; American in Israel; spectacularbid2003; Binyamin; Taiwan Bocks; ...
*iiiich*
If this isn't an example of the obvious fact the Conservative/Orthodox Jewish community will be the cultural bulwark, in His Hands, against the spiritual fatigue and malaise of the Jewish nation through its trials, I don't know what is. Give me a ZOA rep any time.
Anybody have a regular mailing address on this guy? I'd like to approach him and explain a few things on how G-d, the IDF, and a platoon of Jewish FReepers in country and out will continue to be the vanguard of, and actively involved in, a very forward thinking and secure Nation of Israel, while he ... Abe ... what? ... what is he accomplishing?
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posted on
04/20/2004 7:03:29 PM PDT
by
Salem
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