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Gorelick Caught In Lie - Gorelick Says She Did Not Author or Sign the "WALL" Memo
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| April 14, 2004
| By Joe Kovacs
Posted on 04/14/2004 11:42:38 PM PDT by joinedafterattack
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To: joinedafterattack; JennieOsborne; /\XABN584; 3D-JOY; 5Madman; <1/1,000,000th%; 11B3; 1Peter2:16; ...
BTTT !!!!!!!....
hmmmmm... are "INITIALS" actually a signature....... it depends on the meaning of "IS".....
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posted on
04/15/2004 6:43:53 AM PDT
by
davidosborne
(www.davidosborne.net)
To: meadsjn
Your link and the dates in it demonstrates why she belongs in the witness chair.
No, I do not cast "blame" (at this time), but why raising the law *beyond* the historical guidelines that the other commission members and Gorelick defenders are pointing to at that particular time?
After the implications based on nothing that have been flung out about the President, Rice, Ashcroft? Unbelievable!
Might I add, why aren't these commissioners concerned that she hid this classified memo from them? Why are they not interested in the contents?
They're disinterest in exploring any of that exposes the whole lot of them as the joke they are. They are NOT interested in examining and making well-informed recommendations (I know it, everybody here knows it, yet the farce continues).
To: radiohead
Ms. Gorelick's law firm handled the Criag Livingston defense. That all went away quietly. Who hired Craig Livingston and who hired Ms. Gorelick?
To: joinedafterattack
And while it's too lengthy to go into, basically the policy that was put out in the mid-nineties, which I didn't sign,More clintonspeak here. No, she didn't sign it. She initialed it!
To: Puddleglum
About point two - is this true? Should be easily testable. What does she mean by "ratified"? Who wrote the damn thing, anyway, and at whose direction?I've read or heard (not personally from her myself) that she's claimed this on two shows now--I think she appeared Tuesday night on Lou Dobbs and made this statement.
I, too, would like to know who and what is meant by "ratified". Does it mean the office took note of the guidelines and acknowledged they must be followed until officially changed? Or did it mean "we will continue this policy because we think it's good"? Need more---and perhaps Ashcroft even addressed it Tuesday in his testimony since he's the one who brought it up.
I don't know. I don't even know if any commissioner asked him more questions on it. I saw most, but not all, of his appearance and I had missed his opening statement when he threw out the bombshell.
To: joinedafterattack
Liar Liar.
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posted on
04/15/2004 7:03:51 AM PDT
by
petercooper
(You'll get nothing and like it.)
To: texasbluebell
As I understand it, Gorelick's argument is: (1) The policy described in the memo was nothing new [so why was it written?] and (2) it wasn't written by her [even though it went out under her name and she initialed it]. Ok, if we can allow that kind of distancing from one's own acts, let's apply that standard to everyone in government, including Bush, Rice, Ashcroft, Clinton, Reno, Tenet, Freeh, Congress, the entire FBI and the entire CIA. Let's just admit that the commission is a farce and put an end to it.
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posted on
04/15/2004 7:10:03 AM PDT
by
Steve_Seattle
("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
To: davidosborne
BTTT!!!!!!!
88
posted on
04/15/2004 7:13:01 AM PDT
by
E.G.C.
To: Shery
Gorelick is clearly wrong in suggesting the policy wasn't hers - it went out under her name and she initialed it, and if that's not assuming responsibility for content, nothing is. The other question is: to what extent is this policy a departure from, or a tightening of, policies which everyone agrees go back much further. Is it simply a restatement of the old policy, or - as Ashcroft claimed - does it go much further, and did the specific requirements of this policy affect the behavior of FBI agents prior to 9-11?
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posted on
04/15/2004 7:16:27 AM PDT
by
Steve_Seattle
("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
To: Mo1
gorelick clearly using the billclinton dictionary. You know, the one that says it all depends on the meaning of 'is'.
In other words, gorelick is saying.......I DID NOT SIGN THAT MEMO, NOT ONCE. I DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH SIGNING THAT MEMO!
90
posted on
04/15/2004 7:17:39 AM PDT
by
OldFriend
(Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
To: MNJohnnie
That is what you think Gorlick. You either resign, or the whole Comittee is revealed as a farce. That is what you think Gorlick. You must resign, and the whole Comittee is revealed as a farce.
You were so close to being exactly right. At this point, Gorelick resigning will not save the commission from being a farce, not as long as Ben Veniste, and the other Kerrey are sitting on the commission.
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posted on
04/15/2004 7:18:40 AM PDT
by
TC Rider
(The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
To: Redbob
In her own words: "Resources were given. Authorities existed. We should have prevented this."
Yes, you have pointed to this statement from her--and what a conclusion she states there all by itself even before they've gathered all the information they were ostensibly seeking. We know what she meant and Tom Kean was disgraceful yesterday saying she's been acting as one of the more non-partisan members of the committee. The fool doesn't realize (I truly don't think he doesn't and it's not malicious agreement) that she meant the Bush administration could have "prevented this".
Then add the classified memo that she wrote AND WITHHELD from the commission and that sums up why she should be off immediately.
I have to say I am not pleased entirely with Greg Kelly's report on Fox this morning giving a report on this but ending with "but other commission members have worked in government yet this is the only member whose resignation has been called for by a sitting member of Congress". I did not care for tacking on her talking point at the end. It does not fit and is not appropriate.
To: joinedafterattack
"She just lied about it. The pdf pictures of the "wall" memo show that it is from her and she initialled it."
Could it be that "SHE" Gorelick did not actually write this, but another most brilliant lawyer in the world had a hand in it with her legal cohorts......
To: joinedafterattack
Regardless, Reno and Ashcroft are being scrutinized. She should also be questioned about her tenure as the #2 in Justice--this is an absolute joke. Gorelick is a total hack. In addition, Freeh has also questioned her decisions on immigration policy. She was a role player, it defies decency that she is on that Commission. This is really sick.
To: joinedafterattack
I worked in govt a LONG time ago .. the procedure at the time for writing any memo for another's signature was that the actual writer would initial; his/her immediate supervisor would initial; the dept head would initial, and so on up the chain. Initialing was the same thing as your signature, and Gorelick knows it.
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posted on
04/15/2004 7:35:03 AM PDT
by
EDINVA
(reporters aren't stupid .. they just think YOU are)
To: joinedafterattack
Her statements highlight the fact that she needs to be called as a witness to discuss the background of the memo under oath. She denies the plain language of the document. If she is a material witness, how can she also be the judge and the prosecutor?
To: joinedafterattack
She is a democrat.
She does not know the meaning of truth.
Saying a democrat lies[d] is the same as saying that the sun rises in the East.
Catching a democrat lying, or in a lie, is the same as watching the sun rise.
97
posted on
04/15/2004 7:53:45 AM PDT
by
sport
To: joinedafterattack; All
GORELICK Somebody please tell me that name is not indicative of an act performed on a recent presidential candidate.
98
posted on
04/15/2004 7:55:17 AM PDT
by
TheRightGuy
(ERROR CODE 018974523: Random Tagline Compiler Failure)
To: Go Gordon
Well initialed or signed the memo is "FROM" her. People acted in response to her directive and it was never retracted by her. She cannot distance herself from this. It is her doing and if anybody helped Clinton et al. set us up for 9/11 she's it. I guess we now have someone who actually should admit errors, assume blame and apologize accordingly. Hey this commission is doing a great job (ha ha). How smart of them to ensure the real villans/culprits were so close at hand.
Jamie and Eric Holder deserve jail time for what they perpetrated on this country.
99
posted on
04/15/2004 8:00:54 AM PDT
by
rod1
(On the front line)
To: CedarDave
You are absolutely right on the money...we can't fight back with these socialists unless we're ALL on the same page....
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posted on
04/15/2004 8:09:44 AM PDT
by
smiley
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