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Support for Iraq conflict erodes: CNN/Time poll
AFP ^ | April 11, 2004 | AFP

Posted on 04/11/2004 4:02:55 PM PDT by AntiGuv

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To: FlyVet
Umm.. Isn't it a Logan Act violation for citizens to engage in diplomatic relations without authority?
41 posted on 04/11/2004 5:07:40 PM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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To: weegee
And Dubya certainly doesn't have the media with him.
42 posted on 04/11/2004 5:07:47 PM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: paul544
You gotta be kiddin'. Things goin'
real bad, eh? Not bad considerin'
we're at war, worldwide, w/Terror.
If people could grasp that, their
expectations wouldn't be quite so
...well...ridiculous, IMO.
43 posted on 04/11/2004 5:13:51 PM PDT by txrangerette
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To: AntiGuv
I've heard of that Logan Act thing, but I've never heard of it being enforced. BTW, isn't it about time Jimmah Cartah visited North Korea again? He could come back home and report to us how happy the people are, plenty of food, good socialized medicine, how they assured him they won't build any nukes, and what a great ceremony they put on for him. How about Je$$ie Jacka$$ visiting Castro, to make sure everything's ok down there? Maybe he could take Dan Rather with him, just to make sure everything is reported accurately.
44 posted on 04/11/2004 5:20:02 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: paul544
"The only good thing is, John F'ng Kerry can't buy a minute on TV"

Sorry to burst you bubble on this but "likely voters" does make a more predictable sample. Within this very poll is a predictive stat: Republicans solid support for Bush is 2 fold greater than that then Dems have for Kerry. Those are bankable solid votes.(

The truth is that no one wants him on TV! He's uncharismatic and boring. He's advocating higher taxes, worn out Democratic non-starters and has no vision for the WOT. I listened to 20 minutes of Meat the Depresssed this morning in which the round table was 4 liberals involved in Washington insider mental masturbation and Liberal wishful thinking. They seem to think this election will be just on what the public thinks of Bush. I hope to disappoint them but they tried that before with Nixon. They frist tried McGovern and got trounced and then Carter in which we all suffered. Russert had McCain on before this circle jerck to see if he was going to be Kerry's VP. That's what gives him "GAVITAS". Kerry is not an alternative to Bush, NO WAY, NO HOW and they know it.

Relax, keep the faith, and vote

45 posted on 04/11/2004 5:32:12 PM PDT by Pharmer (W is the man)
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To: AntiGuv
Who in their right mind trusts CNN?
46 posted on 04/11/2004 5:35:45 PM PDT by Smartass (God Bless America and Our Troops - Bush & Cheney in 2004)
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To: fightu4it
" As the liberal media in this country increases it's attack on our President there will be a corresponding increase in the attacks on our troops in Iraq."

Amen.
Yesterday's New York Times front page had a huge picture of a euphoric Fallujan terrorist-waving around the combat boots of a dead Marine.
He was celebrating and the NYT thought that was fit to print.
The NYT is reprehensible and reckless in their war and political coverage.
Reminded me of the Palestinian woman celebrating after 9/11.
CENTCOM should pull all media out of the hot zones and only allow embeds.
Every terrorist knows the fastest way to get their picture on CNN or in the NYT is to kill a US soldier.
It's like a perverted reality show-Muslim Idol.
Sponsored by the Democrat Party and the US media.

Last evening,as the Fox News panel was awaiting the WH release of the PDB, Geraldo emotionally said that he hoped that John Kerry would stand shoulder to shoulder with President Bush, in denouncing terrorism,etc.
The panel guffawed to a person.
In your dreams, Geraldo.
Ain't no way John Kerry is going to stand shoulder to shoulder with the President in denouncing the insurgents and the terrorists and supporting the troops .
Ain't no way.
47 posted on 04/11/2004 5:40:16 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: fightu4it
"As the liberal media in this country increases it's attack on our President there will be a corresponding increase in the attacks on our troops in Iraq."

So you think the Shia and Sunnis are sitting around watching Fox News, CNN and reading the New York Times? That is a little bit of misplaced rage. I got news for you, muslims in that part of the world have been killing each other for thousands of years. I hope they go from ripping bodies apart and stringing them up on bridges to peacefully voting in democratic elections.

This is a savage area of the world. Study their history you will see that what we are trying to accomplish (establish some form of a democracy in the middle east) has never been done in the history of mankind.
48 posted on 04/11/2004 5:43:54 PM PDT by optik_b (follow the money)
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To: Pharmer
Kerry is not an alternative to Bush, NO WAY, NO HOW and they know it.

Yes, they do. That's why most of them have started referring to Kerry as presumptive nominee.
The convention might well result in a different nominee altogether. That is, unless hillary wants a clean slate for 2008.

49 posted on 04/11/2004 6:02:37 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: AntiGuv
"The telephone poll canvassed 1,005 adults.

NOTE above, it's a poll of ADULTS -- NOT voters, much less likely voters, for all we know they are not even citizens. Also, by polling "adults", they can include 80% liberals and they don't even have to tell us, because they are not asking what is their party registration, because they are not even registered to vote.

More manipulation attempt by the liberal media.

50 posted on 04/11/2004 6:23:34 PM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: AntiGuv; verity; Owen; umgud; dawn53; fightu4it; MACVSOG68; Chairman Fred; jwalsh07; tbpiper; ...
QUICKIE polls produce UNRELIABLE results and this CNN/Time poll is the WORST type of 'quickie' poll -- it involves only ONE DAY of polling (April 8). Worthless!!

By contrast, the most recent Gallup and USAToday/CNN/Gallup poll used a mult-day (April 5-8) broadly inclusive sampling (i.e., a sampling that included both adults and LIKELY VOTERS). Its markedly more VALID results are detailed below!

GALLUP POLL

GWB approval
4/05-08/04 52% approve 45% disapprove (+7)
3/26-28/04 53% approve 44% disapprove
3/05-07/04 49% approve 48% disapprove

Match-up w/Kerry
Likely Voters
4/05-08/04 Bush 48% Kerry 45% (+3)
3/26-28/04 Bush 51% Kerry 47%
3/05-07/04 Bush 44% Kerry 52% (-8)

[NOTE: Rasmussen puts the President's approval rating at 53% approve 46% disapprove (4/9-11/04 -- 1500 likely voters) up from a low earlier last week of 49% approve/51% disapprove. This same poll gives the President a +3 advantage over Kerry after a -6 pt disadvantage early last week!]


BOTTOMLINE: The President remains in GOOD shape politically! However, we should still regard him as the underdog in November! WHY? Because the left controls academia (K-12 and college), the electronic and print media, the entertainment industry (Hollywood, TV, music), large swaths of the internet, organized labor, and the major urban centers. They will use ALL to their advantage in November! We must counter with the media we do control as well as an unprecedented grassroots effort! WE MUST WORK HARDER AND SMARTER THAN OUR OPPONENTS!!!

[BTW: Polls at this point are meaningless. Democrats/Democrat leaners and Republicans/Republican leaners will remain polarized thru November. The 5-7% of voters who are genuinely undecided will remain so until Sept-October!]
51 posted on 04/11/2004 6:33:21 PM PDT by DrDeb
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To: DrDeb
http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm

It's obvious that CNN polls are made to "move"- and produce "news".

The polls agree support for Bush's handling of Iraq bottomed out in Jan after a rise over the holidays and has held steady since. But of course AFP wouldn't want to publicize that.

It's tough for people to understand the politics in Iraq but as they see responsibility transferred to the Iraqis the numbers will go up anyway.
52 posted on 04/11/2004 6:39:06 PM PDT by mrsmith ("Oyez, oyez! All rise for the Honorable Chief Justice... Hillary Rodham Clinton ")
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To: AntiGuv
Psalms 63:11 - But the king shall rejoice in God; all who swear by him shall glory; for the mouths of liars will be stopped.
53 posted on 04/11/2004 7:12:34 PM PDT by RoseofTexas (All)
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To: verity
Bingo.

Don't know how everyone is missing that.

I would have answered that I think we will fail if we don't wage a tougher war and would come close to being unsatisfied with how GW's handling it.

BUT that doesn't mean I oppose the war I just want to see a bigger response to these uprisings and such.

My theory on these uprisings is because when the new government takes control it won't have the US's reservation about leveling the Sunni triangle. And having had many of their villages leveled in the past by those in the Sunni Triangle welll........

54 posted on 04/11/2004 7:13:48 PM PDT by festus
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To: AntiGuv
I am losing my support for polls-not my God, my President, my military or my country.
55 posted on 04/11/2004 7:17:19 PM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: AntiGuv
These polls are nothing but responses to current events in Iraq and reflect what people think at the moment.

When things are going badly people say they disapprove and when they get better people approve. Big surprise.

56 posted on 04/11/2004 7:22:06 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: MACVSOG68
57 percent of Americans think US military goals will fail unless a tougher stance is taken. This does not support your title.
NO, but this does: Approval of US President George W. Bush and his administration's handling of Iraq was down to 44 percent of Americans, according to the poll, new elements of which were released Sunday, down from 51 percent surveyed March 26-28.

Dubya needs to move quickly and decisively in Iraq.


No, that was the Clinton mistake. Deciding policy based on polls. I guess I will trust the Bush team far more then the uninformed opinion expressed to baised pollers by who knows who.
57 posted on 04/11/2004 9:24:23 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Vote Bush 2004-We have the solutions, Kerry Democrats? Nothing but slogans.)
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To: EGPWS
Did 30 seconds research on web to find the Army's current strength. We have 73 Combat Brigades in the US Army active and reserve. We have 27 deployed (21 Active, 6 Reserve/National Guard) EVERYWHERE in the world. That does not count the Marines, it does count troops coming off deployment, training for deployment and retraining from deployment. I would treat all this DNC directed "News Media" hype with the contempt it deserves. We have barely stretched forth a finger of our strength. I guess I would pay more attention to what the Ground Commanders and the Bush team is saying then all the hysterica being spewed by the has been "experts" in the US Senate and the "News Media" So far the Bush team has been right and the hysterics in the "News Media" wrong EVERY time.
58 posted on 04/11/2004 9:30:48 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Vote Bush 2004-We have the solutions, Kerry Democrats? Nothing but slogans.)
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To: MACVSOG68
would much rather have Dubya calling the shots after January 20th than Kerry. I'm sure he knows that the future often depends on factors outside of his control. Johnson and Bush 41 found out that the Americans are very short sighted and fickle when it comes to wars.

1st, Thank you for your Service.

2nd. It's a long time to Nov 2nd, I would wait and see what happens rather then let the Hysteria in the DNC directed "News Media" bother you. Here is a link to a good website that links to lots of good PROFESSIONAL sources.

http://www.hughhewitt.com/

They are not worried about Iraq so I don' think we should be panicking after a 10 day mob violence in 5% of the country. Bush knows what he is doing which cannot be said for the Partisan Press.
59 posted on 04/11/2004 9:34:45 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Vote Bush 2004-We have the solutions, Kerry Democrats? Nothing but slogans.)
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To: paul544
Love the way some here try to discredit polls that we don't like. Adults, registered voters, likely voters,..... If the overall satisfaction among American's is down, then you can bet the trend holds for voting adults as well.

No one here can possibly look at this week and think things are going well. Any semblence of a plan is out the window, we lost another 50+ troops, there are hostages under the knife, gas prices are out of control...

Nice try Democrat Underground. Unfortunately the polls and reality do not reflect the DNC directed "new's media spin either on the ground in Iraq or here in the USA. See the rise of Talk Radio, CSPAN, FOX News and the Internet have smashed forever the DNC directed "News" media control over the flow of information in the USA. So the word gets out despite the hystaria being spun by the DNC directed "News Media" If you REALLY want some profession views on Iraq and the econommy go to websites.

http://www.hughhewitt.com/

http://www.townhall.com/

they provide a ton of links to professional opinions which pretty much refute the one sided hysteria spewed out by the DNC directed "news" media

Here in Minnesota we are paying $.30 LESS a gallon then we were in Spring and Summer 2000. Gas prices go up and down, people bitch about but they do not VOTE based on gas prices
60 posted on 04/11/2004 9:46:53 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Vote Bush 2004-We have the solutions, Kerry Democrats? Nothing but slogans.)
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