Why Jewish Groups Passionately Hate Mel Gibson

Email from Toward Tradition ^ | Apr. 8, 2004 | Rabbi Daniel Lapin

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[jocon307]

"...NOW...named Andrea Yates Mother of the Year."

Is this a true fact, or is it just hyperbole?

[untenured]

Here is Whoopi Goldberg musing in the pages of The New York Times, "Wait a minute, is this man leading this country as an American or is he leading the country as a Christian?"

I hope the author doesn't think Whoopi Goldberg is Jewish.

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[churchillbuff]

My sense is that christianity inspires hatred from those who find it a scandal or a threat == not just from Jewish non-believers, but from non-believers of all stripes and backgrounds, down the centuries. Jesus warned his followers that is would be so.

[Alouette]

"...NOW...named Andrea Yates Mother of the Year."

I think Lapin fell for a hoax

[blanknoone]

Insightful piece, but I have issues with his term 'secular fundamentalist' because it misses the key point...what exactly are they fundamentalist about. They are secular socialists. NOW, NAACP, the Jewish groups he refers to...all of them. And quite frankly, I object to it because I am an atheist. I am as, if not more, 'secular' and 'fundamentalist' about it as any of those groups. But the key is that I am fundamentally opposed to the philosphy of socialism that all of those groups preach as religious dogma.

[NYC GOP Chick]

This guy is a dweeb.

[jocon307]

LOL, I'm glad it's not true! Thanks for the info. I still don't know why EVERYBODY hates Yoko Ono so much. I don't think she's a bad mother, anyway.

[William Martel]

The author is a rabbi... I'm sure he knows better.

[Nix 2]

An Explanation and Honest Review of

Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ"




Some of you will find a most unusual, but brutally honest, appraisal of Mel Gibson's movie here. Please know that although I did find it to be horridly antisemitic, it was not of Mel Gibson's doing. Mel Gibson's intent was to tell the truth as it was written. He did, and did it so well, that its real meaning was an intense clarification of the truth. It was the New Testament written by Rome for use against Jews and Later Christians alike.

I went into the movie with a completely open mind, trusting in the goodness of the man Mel Gibson is, to tell the truth and nothing but the truth. Having seen it once, it stunned me with its clarity, but to try and be as historically accurate as I could, I saw it a second time to note if I had missed anything. If there was any doubt at all as to what my eyes beheld after reading it over and over for years, the doubt is totally removed and clearly, what was on that screen was the beginning in earnest of the Jewish Holocaust.

Q. WHO Killed Christ?

A. NO ONE.

Q. How do you know?

A. Morality continues to exist. Conscience exists.

The Lord, My G-d, harshly condemned human sacrifice because we are fashioned after His own Image. He did not allow the sacrifice of Isaac at his father's hand. It does not, therefore, stand to reason that this same G-d would especially create and deliver up a human being for sacrifice when the example that was used in the Old Testament to stop this forever was the girlchild of the last Hebrew to offer up a human sacrifice. The punishment for the sin, the loss of a beloved child, was all the more painful than the death itself because G-d did NOT want to ever have such a thing done by Hebrews any more.
Why then, would He use ANY child, since we carry G-d within us everywhere all the time, to make murderers of the whole world? If that was how G-d did things, and we were never meant to endure punishment for our own sins ever again, why love, hate, fear or follow the Lord at all?
Do you not see how the Romans diminished the Glory of G-d in this atrocity? To murder His OWN SON in cold blood?

AND Rome exists to try and make sure that a Moshiach cannot possibly come by strangling our faith and precluding our worthiness for redemption by inventing original sin that is supposed to include us all.

The movie was about ROME'S antisemitism. Rome tried to recreate Jews in their own image, but only the weak and the power hungry followed the path laid out for them. It gained the corrupted followers no respect among Real Jews, or among Romans who hated them for no other reason than Jews frowned upon Rome's *enlightened* lifestyle with its multipurpose gods and goddesses and its debauchery.
Why would we ever want to be remade in a false image when we were already made in G-d's OWN image? It presented a clearer picture of the *why* such a crucifixion was ever written about, and the absolutely chilling realization that with this introduction of horror into the pesky religious Jews' daily lives, Rome made absolutely sure that this, the beginning of the genocide of the Jews, became a holocaust that would never end for all of time.
The leaders of this church made exceedingly sure that Rome's way of life, the unnatural lack of marriage, homosexuality, pedophilia, women as chattel, which religious Jews could never have accepted, would go on and they continue to rid the world of as many Jews as they could even as they were going on to usurp and devour other cultures, other religions, in very much the same way. There are whole peoples who have no history because it was stolen from them. That's YOU.

Rome's adversity to birth control and abortion isn't for humane reasons. It is to see to it that more Catholics are born to carry on their traditions which everyday Christians still do not understand even though it becomes more clear with each passing day.

Having believed within my own soul that the Christ Rome manufactured, was in truth, John the Baptist, The Passion made it more clear than I ever thought possible. You would not find this very realistic if you have no historical background to check the facts, however, I do. John was murdered for doing exactly what this Christ was to have done. He fought vehemently against the petty rules of the Great Sanhedrin (which comes from a Greek word meaning sitting together, (or council,) and against the evil High Priest Caiaphas for selling out his people to Rome, much the same way our leaders have tried to sell us out and have had us murdered via The Altadena, Oslo, Wye, Rabbi Kahane OBM, and so many more. Out of a council of 71, only 9 were portrayed as so evil they would condemn an innocent man in the dark of night in secret. Always, it has been thus. The higher G-d trying to be brought down and slain by MEN who wanted a power they could never hope to possess.

In this movie, I watched Rome brutally torture, mutilate, scourge, and ultimately slay a JEW THEY claimed was our Messiah after they realized that the process by which they had been trying to absorb the Jews into the Hellenistic culture would never work. You all know what a metaphor is. Jesus was a metaphor for JEW. What they could not change, they destroyed, stole our land and our holy Temple artifacts which are still in possession of the Vatican. It never stopped them from their quest to obliterate any culture different from theirs, and I am NOT talking about the Christianity you think you know.

As was their wont, they picked one of our most meaningful Holy Days to perpetrate this image of horror and evil on. We have never been able to celebrate our freedom from Egypt without seeing plays, ashes, tears, masses, and finally movies about the horrors that Rome passed on so excruciatingly by offering the new believers, not Jews but Gentiles...Muslims, Celts, Druids, Gauls, Norse, Spaniards, African Tribes, Island Tribes, Brits...graphic and terrifying details of the murdered Lord, King of the Jews, a man sacrificed like no other among crucifixions. And Rome began at the moment they published their first version of this to destroy The Law and cause their sins to become yours because they said, and too many believed, that the *Old* Covenant was dead.

The Vatican continues to be Rome, and the Romans continue to live with their old ways, condescendingly adapting first one and then another culture's holy days into a Roman Catholic holy day, and teach their converts to hate their brethren until they rid Rome of themselves. The remnant which remains is hardly enough for Rome to blink an eye at, so on and on they went until they murdered and destroyed every culture it came into contact with.

This slaughter did not stop with just non-Christians. In the bygone days they were far too evil to hide their cruelty. If you were the most righteous Cardinal on this earth and it was perceived by the leaders in Rome that your followers had come to care much too much about you, they put you on trial, called your followers satanists, and it wasn't long before your name became simultaneous with Satan, aka Lucifer, a Catholic Cardinal, and his followers who underwent an inquisition for worshipping the devil. The good did not understand. The moral were viciously attacked.

So Mel Gibson is not antisemitic, and it was Rome's decision to begin the Hebrew genocide. G-d will bless Mel Gibson because his is a movie of the unfathomable cruelty of Rome and its chosen collaborators, and is a prominent example of unintended consequences. The movie is changing hearts in many places. G-d exists and works in far more mysterious ways than mere humans can conceive of.

[fire_eye]

I'm sorry, but I just don't get it.

Anyone who sees the movie without already knowing the story in the Gospels, would not have a *CLUE* that Herod, the High Priest, and the rest of the assorted goons were Jewish. So how the hell can the film be "antisemitic"?

For anyone to even *interpret* it as antisemitic, they'd have to have already read the Gospels so they would know that the aforementioned goons were Jewish - that's how far Gibson went out of his way to avoid labeling the "bad guys" as Jewish. Is it Gibson's fault if somebody's read the Gospels and therefore knows that the bearded geeks are Jewish, and then decides to take an "antisemitic" message away from the film? Is that the reward Gibson deserves for going so far out of his way to AVOID communicating antisemitism?

I don't get it.

I don't get it.

I don't get it.

I'm **SORRY**, Foxman & Co. and the author of this article and everyone else who is howling like a hound-dog on a coon trail, but I... DON'T... GET... IT!!!

[Nix 2]

I wish they would *get it* too. Mel Gibson has done the world a HUGE favor. This movie is superb. And he is being amply rewarded for his dedication. The more, the better.

[Nix 2]

In the meantime, why would anyone who HADN'T read the Gospels go to see this movie? Besides that, who doesn't watch TV, listen to radio, read message boards, surf the internet, or know someone who knows something even if they are just Mel Gibson fans...and I am, BTW? Aren't you being just a bit naive?
Having said that, you just jumped a gun yourself by calling them geeks and bad guys. How many times did *Jews* flash across the screen, or wasn't anyone supposed to notice?
Mel Gibson also made some Jews heroes in this film, but ya hear scarce little about that part from the Catholic Guild. The ADL has pretty much retracted their stance on the film. And it seems it might be converting some Muslims...and that's a GOOD thing. Now, if it will only stop them from murdering us, I would nominate Mel Gibson for #2 son.
And *geeks* ain't necessarily a bad thing either.

[DentsRun]

Much as I respect Rabbi Lapin, I don't think Jewish groups hate Gibson merely because he is deeply religious. They (and many liberal Christian scholars) see him as a loose cannon Christian who follows his own conscience. That really scares them to death.

The liberal Christian biblical scholars and certain Jewish groups like the ADL had reached a working agreement to rewrite the Gospels to eliminate any untoward references toward the Jews. Until Gibson came along their plan seemed to be working quite well.

The Catholic Church had more or less signed off on the plan with Vatican II (or at least that was how it was interpreted by the ADL, which helped write the section on Jewish responsibility or lack of it). In the meantime, Jewish and Christian biblical scholars pushed the increasingly accepted notion notion that no sophisticated person really believes the Gospels are literally true anyway.

The next stage was to rewrite the Gospels to pin all the blame on Pontius Pilate and none on the Jews. (Some scholars have been doing this already). Then along comes Mel Gibson with a plan to make a film directly based on the traditional Gospels, which totally upsets their apple cart.

Totally ignoring their repeated requests to vet the film by committee, Gibson rather made a powerful, successful dramatic feature film which at least puts part of the blame for the crucification of Christ on the Sanhedrin and a Jewish mob. Given that it could easily turn out to be the post popular film in history, it has taken their plan to rewrite the Jews clean out of the Gospels and flushed it down the tubes. No wonder the ADL was complaining that "Gibson set us back 40 years."

That's exactly what he did.

[Liz]

......Jewish and Christian biblical scholars pushed the increasingly accepted notion notion that no sophisticated person really believes the Gospels are literally true anyway..........

I hear the rewritten "Gospel of John according to Abe" opens with a disclaimer in which they diss the Gospel itself. Essentinally it says, "We hereby acknowledge this is anti-Semitic but we're going with the text. It's all BS anyway, nobody in their right mind would believe it, so it doesn't really matter."

[Liz]

The good Rabbi is making a valiant attempt to backtrack, trying to save the rumps of Abe and the gang who'd a huge mistake, sending out the shock troops to bash The Passion, hoping it would fail.

The first foray had ADL Abe claiming The Passion was anti-Semitic. That didn't work. NYT's Frank Rich attacked next----said is was fascistic. Then his NYT colleague Maureen Dowd said it was crass. That didn't work. Andy Rooney trashed it on CBS and SNL evilly caricatured it on NBC. That didn't work either.

Newsweek creep Evan Thomas told Imus it was a snuff film. Even so-called conservative Krauthammer bashed it, and Hitchens---in his usual drunken stupor--said it was homo-erotic.

Christian-hating secularists stooped to the lowest levels of condescension to bash Mel, the film, and believers.

Their Passion bashing set the stage for secularists' losing battle in the culture wars. Secularists stupidly polarized the culture into two distinct, opposing camps........small bands of elite secularists versus masses upon masses of believers.

No one will soon forget elitist secularists looking down with haughty condescension on millions of Mr and Mrs Middle-Class Believers lined up at theatres to view The Passion of The Christ.

[Just mythoughts]

"The good Rabbi is making a valiant attempt to backtrack, trying to save the rumps of Abe and the gang who'd a huge mistake, sending out the shock troops to bash The Passion, hoping it would fail.
The first foray had ADL Abe claiming The Passion was anti-Semitic. That didn't work. NYT's Frank Rich attacked next----said is was fascistic. Then his NYT colleague Maureen Dowd said it was crass. That didn't work. Andy Rooney trashed it on CBS and SNL evilly caricatured it on NBC. That didn't work either.

Newsweek creep Evan Thomas told Imus it was a snuff film. Even so-called conservative Krauthammer bashed it, and Hitchens---in his usual drunken stupor--said it was homo-erotic.

Christian-hating secularists stooped to the lowest levels of condescension to bash Mel, the film, and believers.

Their Passion bashing set the stage for secularists' losing battle in the culture wars. Secularists stupidly polarized the culture into two distinct, opposing camps........small bands of elite secularists versus masses upon masses of believers.

No one will soon forget elitist secularists looking down with haughty condescension on millions of Mr and Mrs Middle-Class Believers lined up at theatres to view The Passion of The Christ."


Interesting! Christians are an easy target, we are "sinners", however, their real "TARGET" is Christ Himself, it is HE they reject and hate, and they do not have the backbone to take Him on.

[Just mythoughts]

"Insightful piece, but I have issues with his term 'secular fundamentalist' because it misses the key point...what exactly are they fundamentalist about. They are secular socialists. NOW, NAACP, the Jewish groups he refers to...all of them. And quite frankly, I object to it because I am an atheist. I am as, if not more, 'secular' and 'fundamentalist' about it as any of those groups. But the key is that I am fundamentally opposed to the philosphy of socialism that all of those groups preach as religious dogma."


Think about it. Whatever one puts their "FAITH" in, trust in, belief in, is their "religion" their "god". Secularist believe they are "gods" and government is the altar from which they practice their religion.

You do have the right to believe whatever you choose, you see what Our Heavenly Father requires is our "LOVE" and it is HE that is recording each and every one of us on that score, He reads our "MINDS" so there is no way to con Him, no matter what brand of religion one worships under.