IRAQ: 12 Marines, 66 Iraqis Killed in Battles

The Las Vegas Sun ^ | April 06, 2004 at 18:16:01 PDT | HAMZA HENDAWI

[YoSoy2]

"I think 6th level of Dante's Hell is about right for you. Enjoy."

Speaking of Dante's Hell, wasn't Fledermaus one of the demons in Dante's Inferno who transported the damned souls across the Acheronte(sp?) river and into eternal fires and cold?

[Joe Hadenuf]

We have not argued.

Thank the Lord for small miracles.

[Fledermaus]

I doubt it. But I'd love the job!

[YoSoy2]

"I've been published, have you?"

Not yet. Still writing my manuscript.

Hey, if "you've been published" so can I, don't you think?

[Fledermaus]

Probably not...the market for crap is limited!

But please, send me a copy to review!

[Joe Hadenuf]

P.S. You dare complain about Iraqis not doing more for themselves while your own state of California isn't much better?

Huh? LOL!

Are our troops being killed in California?

Yeowza! Get a grip.

Hear the news out of Florida today? Governor Jeb Bush is supporting giving legitimate driver's license's to criminal illegal aliens. Guess Florida is trying to out do what Gray Davis started.

[wattsmag2]

Thank the Lord for small miracles.

Wow, you must have sore knees then.

[Fledermaus]

No, troops aren't. But the death toll in the inner cities of LA and San Diego and others aren't much better.

[Fledermaus]

Especially if a team wins a championship!

[Joe Hadenuf]

Keep talking it feels good. Now get lost junior.

[Joe Hadenuf]

No, troops aren't. But the death toll in the inner cities of LA and San Diego and others aren't much better.

AAAARRRRRRRG!

[Fledermaus]

Doesn't the truth hurt?

[Joe Hadenuf]

Yes it does. You ought to be on your way to the hospital by now.

In any event. Gotta go.

[Fledermaus]

The truth is foreign to you my friend. But enjoy living in the world of the whine! What grapes produce that?

[wattsmag2]

I'm sorry. Perhaps you might explain that last drivel. It appears that your skill at raucous debate matches your skill at spelling, wife-arguing, etc. But really, though it has been fun watching you fail to assess the points many have tediously attempted to make so as to further your greater understanding of the topic at hand, it is time for me to travel off to engage in more productive pursuits.

However I will point out one more time why fighting in Iraq is a good thing for America.

1. Fighting terrorists there means necessarily that they are
a) contained in a smaller geographical region and thus easier to get at.
b) NOT in the US or around one of our foreign facilities threatening civilians, livelihood, and property.
c) peeing off their fellow Arabs by killing them as or more so indiscriminately than they do the US troops. (That means they soon will have fewer places to hide)
2. Having a democracy or something akin to that will be enormously helpful to US interests
a) Helps destabilize neighboring totalitarian regimes. That's Iran and Syria if you are geopolitically challenged.
b) Gives us a foothold to monitor other events in the region. Of course, you might not think the region is important, but then perhaps you ride a bike or walk to work.
c) Serves as a warning to other despots. Need you look further than Libya?

How will it all turn out? Who knows. But I am glad we are fighting them there, rather than shoveling up the pieces here.

[jaykay]

I beleive neo-cons are former liberal democrats who broke with the left over military and national security issues.
Any actual neo-cons around who can clarify?

[Joe Hadenuf]

Helps destabilize neighboring totalitarian regimes.

Look professor, this corner of the world is already destabilized. LOL! But hey, feel free to destabilize the already destabilized countries.

If we ever stop playing cop, and holding their hands over there, and you really want to stabilize that corner of the world, just be prepared to kill about 80 million of the SOBs. Otherwise, your just blowing smoke.

Having a democracy or something akin to that will be enormously helpful to US interests

You go ahead and take a couple of hundred years and make these millions of religious fanatics a real nice democracy, build them Wal-Mart's, fill them with nice American made rugs and shiny things. Be a big seller I'm sure.

Unfortunately, by the time you build Iraq into a shinning pillar of democracy, the SOBs wont have a drop of fuel left. We'll be in flying, air powered cars by then, and they'll head back into the deserts on camels and put up tents, and probably be quite happy.

But good luck on your endeavor.

[jaykay]

I also cannot understand why some people think that a Mexican coming over the border to work at a Wal-Mart is a worse threat than terrorist-sponsoring states.

Ah, that's all that's coming over that Mexican border is it? Never mind the narcotics, what about the men and materials from those terrorist-sponsoring states that will come over either that border or the Canadian one, if they are not secured?

[Justa]

"You obviously didn't read this thread, you have no credibility here."

I think Luis Gonzalez has a lot of credibility here Joe. You, on the other hand listen to liberal talk radio and then pass their 'glass-half-empty' pessimism on to the forum.

These 'uprisings' will continue for as long as Iraq is controlled by non-Shiites. They are instigated by Shiite clerics who resent their limited or diminished control over Iraq. Freedom is their enemy because it permits free will. This is one of Sadr's billboards in Najaf, he is pictured center:

Many Shiites are turning their backs on the fundamentalist clerics because they have nothing to offer but slavery and poverty.

Justice is trickling down to the little Saddams and they're striking out. Deal with it.

[Cap Huff]

Prayers for your nephew and for you and your family.