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Incoming Spanish Prime Minister Zapaterio refuses to OK rotation of Spanish troops.
Costa Blanco News (Spain) ^ | April 2, 2004

Posted on 04/03/2004 6:34:24 PM PST by brydic1

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To: samtheman
Agreed my friend. Agreed.
41 posted on 04/04/2004 8:18:36 PM PDT by Iberian
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To: Don Carlos
I hope we don't have to do it over. Look around and see what the America are doing??


What do you think.
42 posted on 04/04/2004 8:21:03 PM PDT by Iberian
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To: Don Carlos
Spain was swayed because of the Iraq issue. That is happening here as we speak.
When Bush decides to clean this up once and for all we all win.

Let the soldiers be soldiers, they are the best in this planet, let them do what they are trained for or they (the Muslims)will come here and take our freedom.

Clean the Muslims out here first.
43 posted on 04/04/2004 8:43:12 PM PDT by Iberian
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To: samtheman; Iberian
sam: Spain, is a Parliamentary Republic, much like the U.K. Their PM's term of office is 4 years, with the possibility of a no-confidence motion forcing earlier elections.

If things get bad in Spain economically, or(as I expect will happen) because of blatant curruption and inept governing by the PSOE, the Zapatero government will have difficulties in short order. Aznar put the PSOE on notice shortly after the election, telling the nation that the PSOE was inheriting a national treasury in excellent condition. In other words, if economic problems arise, PSOE is the cause!

Iberian; by "do over" I meant re-think and re-vote. If everyone in Spain with second thoughts got a do over, PSOE would still be the minority opposition party, whining the way the dems do here. Unfortunately, I fear the do over will be 4 years down the road.

44 posted on 04/04/2004 8:54:35 PM PDT by Don Carlos (Tag line on strike for better . . . (insert the current whine here))
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To: Don Carlos
I think Spain will respond a lot faster than you think. The pulse of the people are not in the mood to deal with the freaking Muslims or a socialist government.

Spaniards Hate the Muslims, and Zapatero got in on a change created by them.

Spain is in no mood to deal with these bastards right now. The ETA hates those SOB's as well because they are creating a negative undercurrent to the terrorist theme in Spain.

ETA is a Hatfield and McCoy's internal issue. This is a fight among ts themselves
45 posted on 04/04/2004 9:06:45 PM PDT by Iberian
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To: Iberian
Spain was swayed because of the Iraq issue

Spain was stunned and overwhelmed by the terrorist bombing. The election was tipped by the behavior of the PSOE rabble, in the streets by the thousands throughout Spain, calling Aznar a criminal and liar (and worse), right up to election day.

Dont forget, the bombing happened on Wednesday, and the election was held the following Sunday. The Iraq issue was NOT the primary reason for the PP loss. Inflamed Spanish passions due to the PSOE tactics are what caused the upset. Most Spaniards with regrets today would not have voted PSOE had there been a cooling off period between the bombing and the election.

46 posted on 04/04/2004 9:12:44 PM PDT by Don Carlos (Tag line on strike for better . . . (insert the current whine here))
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To: Iberian
I think we are pretty much in agreement right down the line. I too believe the Spanish people will make damn sure Zapatero stays honest, and will respond quickly if he pulls a Felipe Gonzalez on them. If he tries to loot the treasury, or goes too far left he will have a short tenure!
47 posted on 04/04/2004 9:24:04 PM PDT by Don Carlos (Tag line on strike for better . . . (insert the current whine here))
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To: Don Carlos
Geez, Zappie is already calling for the 'equality' issue, going so far as to force men to vacuum their homes!!! Ye gods, what's next??? No more 'macho'male...oy ve.....Zappie is going to neuter the Spaniard.....this will impress the Wahhabi Islamists....rock on, Zapatero!!
48 posted on 04/04/2004 9:45:11 PM PDT by scoastie
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To: America's Resolve
Absolutely! Are you sure that Zapatero and Clinton did not go to school together??
49 posted on 04/04/2004 9:49:38 PM PDT by scoastie
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To: Don Carlos
sam: Spain, is a Parliamentary Republic, much like the U.K. Their PM's term of office is 4 years, with the possibility of a no-confidence motion forcing earlier elections.

Iberian; by "do over" I meant re-think and re-vote. If everyone in Spain with second thoughts got a do over, PSOE would still be the minority opposition party, whining the way the dems do here. Unfortunately, I fear the do over will be 4 years down the road.

So what you are saying here is that while an early election is possible, it is unlikely and that the new PM is going to keep his job for the next 4 years. Is that right?
50 posted on 04/05/2004 2:10:09 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman
iberian has a valid point, it is certainly possible..im all for giving the spanish troops refuge here!...its unimaginable how they must feel seeing how their country is acting!
51 posted on 04/05/2004 2:16:02 AM PDT by rrrod
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To: samtheman
Yep! Thats what I expect.
52 posted on 04/05/2004 5:03:57 AM PDT by Don Carlos (Me cache en los Moros. (Ancient Spanish curse. Commonly un use today!))
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To: rrrod
all for giving the spanish troops refuge here!...
How about battle-field visas, with on-the-spot-enlistments into the American Army? I wonder how many Spanish soldiers would come over if they could.
53 posted on 04/05/2004 5:41:58 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman
YEP!!!!!! stanbd by those that stood with us!
54 posted on 04/05/2004 5:47:39 AM PDT by rrrod
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