France Lied to U.S. During Iraq Crisis (Book Excerpt)(GOOD READ)

Insight Magazine ^ | Posted April 2, 2004 | By Kenneth R. Timmerman

[OXENinFLA]

This is a MUST READ.

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[Quilla]

Thanks OXENinFLA. It just goes to show you how close this administration plays their cards to their vests. They could easily have spoken out and told us of France's duplicity, but they chose to remain above the fray. What honorable men we have defending this country.

[Jewels1091]

Feel free to do so....I thought everyone should read it. I thought my opinion of France couldn't go lower, I was wrong.

[Michael81Dus]

France & Germany will be our opponents in the next war.

Really? What makes you believing that? The fact that the sovereign Germany has decided not to support you? You expect a war between countries which don´t support you? Better you first start a war with the countries that openly threaten you!

[prairiebreeze]

Thank you for the ping. France is NOT our ally. Too bad John Fool Kerry wants us to think they are.

Prairie

[Howlin]

Is there a "France Haters" ping list? If so, I want ON it........LOL.

[Quilla]

Almost sad to say that I'm half French - my maiden name is as hard to pronounce as de Villepin. However, my ancestors must have figured something was up, they left France for America in 1657.

[MizSterious]

If you find one, or start one, I want on it too!

Saw Timmerman on Fox News last night, and if I wasn't fully qualified to be on the France Haters ping list before, I most certainly am now. I can't think of words to express this that could be used in polite society, so I'll keep it to myself. Grrrr.

[Howlin]

I saw him, too! Have you read his book? I just may have to go get it, if I think my heart can take it!

[Porterville]

Aren't the french in a severe recession? I here they are losing all their vineyards and armpit-stink factories.... I hope they get exactly what they deserve.

John Kerry just doesn't have any GRAVITAS!!

[MizSterious]

I'd be the last to hand you a tinfoil hat. Remember, some of the missiles we found after the war (illegal missiles I might add) were from France, and of recent vintage.

I have long maintained that in addition to the graft (oil for food) they were taking from Saddam, the other reason they were against the war was concern about what we would find, and which countries it would incriminate. Personally, I think we've found more than we've said publicly. I suspect it's being saved for a time when it will be more useful.

[MizSterious]

"Better you first start a war with the countries that openly threaten you!"

Oh, so the ones who secretly plot against us and give aid to our enemies (material and intel aid, no less) should be given a pass? Pul-leeze.

[MizSterious]

It's been ordered from amazon. I really need to read this one.

[Porterville]

This story makes me want to rip my eye-balls out of my head.... dirty french bastards.

[Michael81Dus]

Oh, so the ones who secretly plot against us and give aid to our enemies (material and intel aid, no less) should be given a pass? Pul-leeze.

Well, and here we go again: Tell me, which material and what intel infos did the German gvt offer to the regime of Saddam Hussein (who, btw, still believes he were president of Iraq)?

If you continue to claim that Germany gave aid to your enemies, how do you call the the (then-present) NBC-defense-bataillon in Kuwait, the Patriot systems to Turkey and Israel, the (matter-of-course) grant of overflight rights, the protection of all US facilities on German soil by the German Army (for free, to make US personnel available for war)?? And where would you treat your wounded soldiers if not in Germany (in US military as well as German civilian hospitals near Ramstein AB)?

Thanks, but no thanks. I´m sick and tired of these allegations. It wasn´t a great time for the transatlantic relations, but it wasn´t hostile!

Maybe AtlanticFriend, if still here, can tell you something about the French position.

[MizSterious]

Germany certainly had its share of the oil for food graft. They were on the take from Saddam. Now why might that be, I wonder? So they could be good friends and allies with the U.S.? I suspect not.

[Michael81Dus]

Who TH would have made profits from deals with Saddam? I mean, in Germany you find no big oil company - unlike in Russia and France. What I know is, that there were several armament industry business associations who have illegally dealt with Iraq, and I know that few of those businessmen were sentenced for that. I can see no political support for cooperation with Saddam; not with Kohl (bearer of the Medal of Freedom, Chancellor 1982-1998), nor with Schröder (in fact, his coalition partner, the Greens, reduced the arms exports).

[MizSterious]

Those certificates were worth billions in some cases. You need to read up on this, because obviously you think Germany had to actually process the oil. They didn't. There were "fences" who would handle all that. Germany is not our friend. And you appear to be one of Germany's shills.

[Michael81Dus]

I AM GERMAN!

[Quilla]

Miz, Michael's one of the good guys, a freeper from Germany.