Sun Settles With Microsoft, Announces 3,300 Job Cuts

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[Petronski]

Wow. Just, wow.

[kevkrom]

Sun... good machines, lousy business sense.

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[2banana]

Sun, once a shining star of Silicon Valley, also said it expects revenue for the quarter ended March 28 to be approximately $2.65 billion. Net loss will be between $750 million and $810 million, or 23 cents to 25 cents per share.

Wow. Is there any hope?

[Porterville]

I hope Sun gets the hell out of CA, I hate what those tech companies did to the San Jose area...

[ex-snook]

Well at least those 3300 laid off can find a job in the growing number now being created. Anyone know where they can apply?

[theFIRMbss]

[The G Man]

an announcement Friday by Sun that it is cutting 3,300 jobs

Tom Daschle was relieved. Greatly relieved.

[epluribus_2]

This and word of a McNealy retirement would just make the world rainbow happy.

[Petronski]

You should duplicate that post on every willie green thread.

[mikegi]

It was obvious to a doofus like me as far back as 1987 that the proprietary mini-makers were doomed. PCs were on a steep growth curve in both usage and technology. Apollo, DEC, Sun, SGI, etc. were doomed. They never adapted/couldn't adapt and died. Now they're reduced to a law firm with 30,000 employees.

[D-fendr]

Sun said Microsoft violated its license agreement by creating its own version of Java, thus making it less universal.

Quite an understatement.

Same thing with HTML. Platform/browser independence for web and web apps is a great goal, but it keeps getting squashed.

[Paraclete]

It seems like over the years, McNeally of Sun and Ellison of Oracle have had a severe envy of Bill Gates. The envy has not been conducive to sound business decisions, IMHO.

[chance33_98]

We still use a lot of Suns, and buy them almost monthly (own a few myself). They are not the type of system for home use generally. They are used in the oil industry and chemical industry quite a bit (most the desktops at Chemical Abstracts are Suns as well as their servers).

I hope Sun gets it act together, once again it is not the economy to blame but Sun itself. I like their products, their servers have been solid and fast and most the problems we have encountered have been hardware related, whereas with the x86 machines running windows we have a lot of both hardware and software issues (I run Solaris at home on the suns, 2000 server on the x86's as well as redhat. Though I am thinking of redoing one sun using debian. I run mainly math applications on the Sun, much better performance).

[wireplay]

Well Scott McNealy got his just rewards and it looks like humble pie was eaten. Now off to sunset for him, sell Java to IBM, and Sun may stand a chance as a hardware firm.

[Lael]

Well at least those 3300 laid off can find a job in the growing number now being created. Anyone know where they can apply?

Bangalore...Mumbai...Hyderabad!

Or maybe Manila!!

Anyone working in PC/Sun/Microsoft/Intel Space gonna get "OFFSHORED" for SURE!!!

[ottothedog]

I have a different take on this completely. This is Sun/MS versus the Linux crowd. Also Sun will never make it as a "hardware" company. They are a systems company.

[SoDak]

I'd like to get my hands on a Sun box once. I've never goofed around with Solaris, but I understand that it's a pretty nice OS. I have an RS/6000 running AIX 5.1 at home that I use mainly to write and test new scripts when I'm bored.

[Dominic Harr]

So MS again breaks the law, delays for a decade waiting for their victim to die slowly, then finally settles for a Billion dollars plus.

Big corporate crime pays in America.

And watch the MS flunkies call this a 'victory' for the mob. "We won! We only got fined a meesly Billion and a half!"

Like the Clintonites -- "We won, he was only impeached!"