At the Divinity School, passionate talk of 'The Passion of the Christ'(Harvard Barf-caption time)

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[hellinahandcart]

Strange body language in those pictures. The men are all fingering their faces.

So which one of these self-caressers is the atheist James Carroll?

[fqued]

Although Gibson claimed "The Passion of the Christ" remains true to the history of the Gospels, Bovon pointed out that this might be a hollow claim. "The Gospels are history and interpretation," he said. "The Gospels are not our best sources to the history of the passion of Jesus."

Very, very strange statement. If the Gospels are not our best sources to the history of the passion of Jesus, what is?? The dude never answers that, because his answer would be laughable.

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[hellinahandcart]

If the Gospels are not our best sources to the history of the passion of Jesus, what is??

Why, one of Bovon's books, of course...

[chance33_98]

The first pic

[hellinahandcart]

LOL. The one in the prayerful pose.

[Agent Smith]

Where is the BARF ALERT?

[chance33_98]

Not enough space in title, and most anything with Harvard and Religion is Auto Barf :)

[bereanway]

I think a "multiple dry heave alert" might be more appropriate.

Based upon this article my concise, scholarly review of the Harvard Divinity School is as follows: REPROBATE AND UNREGENERATE.

[chickens]

I'd like to see this movie, because I think Mel Gibson finally has it right. The most apt criticism of Gibson's American Revolution movie: Mel Gibson suffers through the American Revolution, so you don't have to. Gibson also suffers beautifully through We Were Soldiers, but breaks character at the end, where he goes wishy washy.

Yes, Mel Gibson suffers magnificently. The movie with him as a preacher in the corn fields, where his wife gets cut in half by a Pakistani veterinarian, and a single space alien appears for the climax , was so painful -- that when that movie's parody appeared, audiences almost died laughing.

Crucifixion is no joke. So, if Gibson can pass on his gift of suffering to another actor -- where suffering took place indeed -- there should be some exceptional suffering. It's what Mel Gibson does best. But I hear "they're" re-releasing the movie, the Life of Brian (no kidding). Comic relief after the corn? I hope not.

[Calvin Locke]

I had Harvard as a customer in a past life. So, I was attuned to Harvard "news".

I recall the Harvard Divinity Schoolhaving some sort of "art" exhibit with condoms.

Other than some religions having dictates or strong opinions about conception and preventing conception, to what end
did HDS prick traditional teachings with such an exhibit?

I ask this since their interpretation of "art" is the use of condoms as a medium, I'm supposed to really care about
their opinion of serious take on a religious and historical event?

[TheMole]

"The problem is that much of this stuff in the movie is in the Gospels," countered Cox. "It's read every Good Friday in churches." The film may push Christians, he said, to scrutinize what he called "these terrible passages" of canonical sources.

Man, that's some kind of a divinity school. It's been taken over by anti-Christians.

[Calvin Locke]

If the Gospels are not our best sources to the history of the passion of Jesus, what is??

The NYSlimes, of course. Or Disney. Maybe Karl Marx.

I thought one foreign language was a pain, let alone three, and they're whining over the absence of Greek???

Their sort of discussion is more suitable for Camelot High (i.e., Kennedy School of Gov't), than a divinity school. Or any collegiate level discussion, for that matter.

Heck, Hollywood script writers could come up with better and more on topic, and more consistent arguments than that assembled panel.

[My Dog Likes Me]

James Carroll is the son of an Air Force general. He hid in seminary school during the Vietnam War, then dropped out when it was safe to begin a new life attacking the Catholic Church and the American military.

James Carroll is intellectual and moral pond scum, who writes a regular column for the Boston Globe.

[My Dog Likes Me]

One of the deans at the Harvard Divinity School was fired a few years ago for having a huge amount of downloaded child porn on his office computer. So much, in fact, that the computer crashed and he called the department I.T. guy to "fix his computer."

The I.T. guy determined what the "problem" was, and turned the dean in. There followed a big debate on campus about the role of the department computer guys, and if they should turn people into the cops for stuff that they come across, blah blah.

[DentsRun]

"The problem is that much of this stuff in the movie is in the Gospels," countered Cox. "It's read every Good Friday in churches." The film may push Christians, he said, to scrutinize what he called "these terrible passages" of canonical sources.

This passage shows exactly why these guys are so steamed at Gibson. They had this plan to re-write the Gospels to absolve the Sanhedrin of any responsiblity for the death of Christ. Then (as they see it) along comes some irresponsible nitwit of an actor and not only does he make a film eggregiously faithful to the Gospels, he finances it himself, with the result that no outsiders have any control at all. Well, no wonder their buns are burning. They had this long term plan to discredit the Gospels by labeling them anti-Semitic and petty-boy Gibson just waltzes right in and blows their Gospel-lite rewrite clean out of the water.

[I still care]

I think you would like this article. It is the best one I have ever seen on the passion, on WHY they hate it so much - very much on what you touched on.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1093798/posts?page=2

By the way, did you ever read the Great Divorce by CS Lewis - about the liberal theologian on the bus from Hell trying to get into heaven, but goes back because no one will listen to him. It's one of my all time favorite books.

[SkyPilot]

"This is terrible! People think that good versus evil is a clear issue. Of course it is all really muddled on what we--the Harvard elite say it is! And Mel Gibson did not follow the Bible exactly for his script--so I want to slam him about that. What? Do I think the Bible should be taken literally? Well...err...no--not really! I mean--that part about homosexuality being an abomination and all that--throw that part out. Hey, listen pal--I have the word Divinity as in "Harvard Divinity School" written on my resume and on my business cards--so don't mess with me!

[melsec]

While I can't say I liked the movie, mainly because of the way it was filmed, these goons couldn't be more wrong when it comes to the film's content and realism. I went to really cast a critical eye on the film and rather than finding it anti-semetic I found it very very even handed when it came to presenting on one hand some of the religiously powerful and on the other hand those who either followed Jesus or tried to stand up for Him against a sea of evil. As in real life no-one comes out smelling of roses when it comes to having their hands or consciences dirtied.

Mel what's with all the slow-mo's and Hollywood effects and the poor lighting which made me feel like I was watching a film made in Moscow -not supposedly in Israel.

Blessings

Mel