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Hardball Tonight: Clarke - 9/11 Might Have Been Prevented
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| Updated: 3:35 p.m. ET March 31, 2004
| Alex Johnson
Posted on 03/31/2004 1:03:36 PM PST by ironman
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To: arasina
Sickening Senator Corzine was on Hannity's show today and would not disagree with Clarke. Corzine said the Bush administration was obsessed with Iraq, blah blah blah. He also said that people who go rustling around in documents belonging to the Senate Intelligence Committee are the bad guys. The content of the memo wasn't political in his opinion, but whomever leaked it was being political. Gee .. interesting that Corzine thinks Clarke is believable when not to long ago (when Memogate hit) Corzine was saying that whistle blowers aren't believable
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posted on
03/31/2004 6:15:16 PM PST
by
Mo1
(Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?)
To: BigSkyFreeper
I think his underlying MO is/was to take down everyone he had to report to, from Condi Rice, to Ms. PlameDon't put Plame in that group. If he mentioned her it was to puff her and Wilson up, not to take them down.
Typical dems, once Novak did write his piece they crafted the "outing" talking point, much like those "stolen FBI files" were squirreled away by dems, then they point the finger at the "Nixonian dirty tricks GOP". Just tweaking facts to suit themselves.
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posted on
03/31/2004 6:19:26 PM PST
by
cyncooper
("The 'War on Terror ' is not a figure of speech")
To: prairiebreeze
I posted an article by Novak just the other day. It was on Clarke but I was looking for hints if he's the one who told Novak why Wilson went to Niger. I didn't see any though one poster thought Novak was sending signals over the heads of the average reader.
(Repeating my point that there was no "outing" or anything criminal in someone saying what they said to Novak)
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posted on
03/31/2004 6:21:44 PM PST
by
cyncooper
("The 'War on Terror ' is not a figure of speech")
To: maica
This [from Congressman Shays own website] is what I have NOT heard anyone ask the certifiably insane RACIt is outrageous that Russert and Matthews welcome the likes of Clarke on their programs and act like he has even one bit of credibility and actually act like the Bush administration has been dishonest or at least not given terrorism appropriate attention when they MUST know that Clarke's self-aggrandizing account in his damn book and testimony is undercut by Shays, for just one example.
They are not to be respected or trusted ever again.
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posted on
03/31/2004 6:28:17 PM PST
by
cyncooper
("The 'War on Terror ' is not a figure of speech")
To: Wolfstar
It's almost as if the left thinks that people can be deceived enough to lose sight of what they themselves experienced. It had a profound effect on ALL of us. We saw the quick reaction to 9/11 by the Bush administration. NO amount of spin can change that!
I will say that I hope President Bush takes just as strong a tack with the debacle in Falujah. Get the innocents out of the way and then bomb those evil people like the Iraelis did to Yassin. Then we should spray the town with bacon grease or something. We can't have our good Marines and civilian workers being blown to bits and dragged through the streets and do nothing in response. My prayers for the families. They are surely devastated for the rest of their lives.
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posted on
03/31/2004 6:30:09 PM PST
by
arasina
(So there.)
To: cyncooper
This is what bothered me the most...according to Clarke, he was the only smart person in the White House. He was the only intuitive person in the White House. He was the only reasonable person in the White House. If only the fools had trusted him, and told him everything they knew, he would have saved the world...
He truly is a megalomaniac, and Chris was feeding his megolomania with both hands. It seems to never have occured to Chrissy that when ten people disagree with the eleventh person, just maybe the ten are the ones who are right.
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posted on
03/31/2004 6:35:45 PM PST
by
EllaMinnow
("Pessimism never won any battle." - Dwight D. Eisenhower)
To: cyncooper
Interesting. Thanks!
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posted on
03/31/2004 6:36:44 PM PST
by
prairiebreeze
(We will not deny, ignore or pass our problems along to other Presidents. ---GWBush)
To: redlipstick
when ten people disagree with the eleventh person, just maybe the ten are the ones who are right.EXACTLY. Well said.
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posted on
03/31/2004 6:38:16 PM PST
by
cyncooper
("The 'War on Terror ' is not a figure of speech")
To: cyncooper
Clarke left his post at the White House in January, 2003. I don't think he is the source of the leak to Novak since his column on the Wilson-yellow cake issue didn't appear until July.
I wish Novak would just open up and give the name of the leaker just like he opened up with Valerie Plame's name! He's supposedly doing the "honorable journalist" thing. Bah!
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posted on
03/31/2004 6:38:30 PM PST
by
arasina
(So there.)
To: arasina
I seem to recall Novak said he talked to a couple sources and he said they weren't in the the WH. I seem to recall one was a former official.
I don't have my heart set on it, and you may be right. My point was the man's a talker, he reminds of Wilson, more than likely sympathizes and agrees with Wilson and above all I wanted to make the point that there really wasn't an "outing" or "leak" about Plame in the way Wilson would have one believe and I don't think his wife's CIA affiliation was a big secret.
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posted on
03/31/2004 6:49:58 PM PST
by
cyncooper
("The 'War on Terror ' is not a figure of speech")
To: redlipstick
This is the most bizarre "interview" I've ever seen.Uh, how shall I say this...It sounds like when Thompson said last night he hoped Chris would "put the screws to Clarke" Chris got the wrong idea...
It sounds worse than I dared imagine.
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posted on
03/31/2004 6:53:17 PM PST
by
cyncooper
("The 'War on Terror ' is not a figure of speech")
To: cyncooper
It really tells us more than we need to know about Chrissy's private life that when someone says "put the screws to" he takes it as bend over and grab your ankles.
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posted on
03/31/2004 6:58:50 PM PST
by
EllaMinnow
("Pessimism never won any battle." - Dwight D. Eisenhower)
To: cyncooper
I couldn't watch. It started and my husband was shaking and yelling , turn it off, like we were going to get a disease watching it. My thanks to all who did,,it is a dirty job. I think this man is very close to the edge. He is narcissitic, very grandiose and full of hate and venom. He however, from what I read above, is scared to death of GWB.
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posted on
03/31/2004 7:00:23 PM PST
by
cajungirl
(<i>swing low, sweet limousine, comin' fer to Kerry me hoooommmee</i>)
To: redlipstick
This one's for you:
Monday March 29, 2004
MSNBC HARDBALL 0.5 rating share
Glad I missed it.;)
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posted on
03/31/2004 7:06:11 PM PST
by
MamaLucci
(Liberal talk radio: "Helping to elect Republicans since 2004".)
To: MamaLucci
Thank you, thank you! I'm basking in schadenfreude!
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posted on
03/31/2004 7:13:52 PM PST
by
EllaMinnow
("Pessimism never won any battle." - Dwight D. Eisenhower)
To: commish
Good point! Tie Clarke to Kerry AND TO HILLARY!
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posted on
03/31/2004 7:25:21 PM PST
by
CyberAnt
(The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
To: Howlin
You forgot one thing - all that is a departure from what's in his book - a least a lot of it.
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posted on
03/31/2004 7:26:29 PM PST
by
CyberAnt
(The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
To: kabar
great summary in your post
The news media are treating Clarke's opinions of Operation Iraqi Freedom like "gotcha statements," as if there is some concrete measurement to determine if a war is just or unjust, and to determine if it was right or wrong for the War on Terror.
Clarke's opinion is just that - an opinion. And I don't share his opinion.
Bush's foreign policy and his prosecution of the War on Terror are often criticized as a "radical departure" from previous US policies - darn right they are a radical departure, especially from the policies of the previous administration!!
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posted on
03/31/2004 7:30:25 PM PST
by
Spotsy
(Bush-Cheney '04)
To: wirestripper
They will try to use all of her prior statements to impeach her testimony and make her out to be untruthful."Try" being the operative word. Good always triumphs over evil and will this time. We do have precedent to look to, and believe me, despite the efforts of the media Clarke is NOT gaining a following.
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posted on
03/31/2004 7:37:40 PM PST
by
cyncooper
("The 'War on Terror ' is not a figure of speech")
To: Political Junkie Too
Yeah, this is from J. Michael Waller's articles about all the obstruction the Bush admin has had to put up with since they took office.
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posted on
03/31/2004 7:37:42 PM PST
by
CyberAnt
(The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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