Iraq Arms Inspector Says Search Is a Tangle

NY Times ^ | March 31, 2004 | DOUGLAS JEHL

[neverdem]

Levin and Duelfer are basically calling each other liars. I'll go with the guy who's lying is the one whose surname can make an alliteration with liar.

[martin_fierro]

What buried Iraqi MiGs look like:

[oolatec]

100 tons of what we are looking for could be stored in a small garage. Assuming everything was kept together, and not scattered, it will be a long time before anything is found.

[alnick]

Mr. Duelfer, who took charge of the search in January, said at a news conference on Capitol Hill that the picture of Iraq's suspicious activities "is much more complicated than I anticipated going in."

Duelfer went in as a WMD skeptic. He's apparently not skeptical anymore.

[Howlin]

When was that found?

[Just mythoughts]

Which country does Levin work for?

[oceanview]

conditions at the prison where they are being held are obviously too good. they should be on chain gangs, digging up suspected WMD sites 10 hours a day with shovels. a couple of weeks of that - they'll talk.

[ntnychik]

Here's a link about an August '03 find:
http://afr.com/articles/2003/08/01/1059480545424.html

[firebug01]

-"conditions at the prison where they are being held are obviously too good. they should be on chain gangs, digging up suspected WMD sites 10 hours a day with shovels. a couple of weeks of that - they'll talk."

Amen to that!

[martin_fierro]

Not sure if it was after Gulf War I or II, but here's where I found the pictures

[Starve The Beast]

We shouldn't allow this WMD stuff to sidetrack us. Yes, it would have been great if we'd found a bunch of nukes and nerve gas lined up in clearly-labelled stainless steel cannisters like in some James Bond movie.

But let's not forget why we're really in Iraq: The middle-east is a swamp of dysfunctional regimes that produces suicide bombers intent on killing us. The US is over there because somebody needs to start draining that swamp. I'm thankful that we have a president who has the vision and the guts to take the job on.

[KingNo155]

They wont talk? put a gun to thier head(empty chamber & clip... pull trigger)! Still wont talk put a live gun to thier wives head!

[neverdem]

I agree with your assessment, but there's nothing written in stone saying we'll succeed and have an intact Iraq that's some sort of democratic republic, ideally. That's why it would be so nice to stick it in the faces of the rats. BTW, I read today on NRO, IIRC, that it was the Germans who told us that Iraq had mobile chem and bio production facilities.

[First_Salute]

Some were found on April 16, 2003. More found on July 6, 2003.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1036015/posts

http://cryptome.org/iraq-mig.htm

[Starve The Beast]

...there's nothing written in stone saying we'll succeed and have an intact Iraq that's some sort of democratic republic...

You are certainly correct, unfortunately. Our effort to bring democracy to Iraq as a start to stabilizing the Middle East is a huge undertaking, and may easily fail. But we need to do something. Hats off to Bush for this bold attempt, and let's hope it's a success.

[piasa]

Another reason there are spastic democrats:

APRIL 2003 late : (LONDON TELEGRAPH UNEARTHS DOCUMENTS LINKING AL QAEDA & IRAQI INTELLIGENCE) The unearthing of documents directly linking Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda organization to Saddam Hussein this weekend may have hermetically sealed the Bush administration's case that dismantling Iraq's Baathist enterprise was in part necessary to undo terrorism's dynamic duo. But closing that case may reopen a Pandora's box for ex-Clinton administration officials who still believe their policy prescriptions protected U.S. national interests against the growing threat of terrorism during the past decade.
The London Telegraph's weekend revelations raise deeply disturbing questions about the extent and magnitude to which President Clinton, his national-security adviser Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger, and senior terrorism and State Department officials — including Assistant Secretary of State for East Africa, Susan Rice — politicized intelligence data, relied on and even circulated fabricated evidence in making critical national-security decisions, and presided over a string of intelligence failures during the months leading up to the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania.
Analysis of documents found in the rubble of Iraq's intelligence headquarters show that contrary to conventional wisdom, Iraqi military and intelligence officials sought out al Qaeda leaders, not the other way around, and ultimately met with bin Laden on at least two occasions. They also show that channels of communication between al Qaeda and Iraq were created much earlier and were wider ranging in scope than previously thought. The timing of the meetings sheds important new light on how grave the Clinton administration's intelligence failures may have been. On February 19, 1998, about six months prior to the attacks in Dar Es Salaam and Nairobi, Iraqi intelligence officials set in motion a plan to bring a senior and trusted bin Laden aide to Baghdad from Khartoum. One of the key Mukhabarat intelligence documents shows that a recommendation was made for "…the deputy director general to bring the [bin Laden] envoy to Iraq because we may find in this envoy a way to maintain contacts with bin Laden." The meetings took place in March 1998. "The Clinton Intel Record Deeper failures revealed. ," by Mansoor Ijaz, National Review Online, 4-29-2003

[Richard Axtell]

There were more than 3 reportsfrom different sources the sighting of large caravans of trucks originating in Iraq and headed for Syria, and ultimately Lebanon's Bekaa Valley... before the war. Saddam hid his Aces under the table, and he still plans on using them. The reason we have not found WMD's in Iraq, is because they have been moved from Iraq. That should be obvious by now. So, what to do? Perhaps we need much, much more intelligence presence on the ground in Syria and Lebanon? Seems logical, eh?

[neverdem]

So, what to do? Perhaps we need much, much more intelligence presence on the ground in Syria and Lebanon?

Definitely, the question is how to get native Arabs to get under cover for us and not be double agents. That took a long time with the commies.

[Atchafalaya]

Let the Israli's interrogate them!