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Gamma-ray weapons could trigger next arms race
From New Scientist Online News ^ | 19:00 13 August 03 | By David Hambling

Posted on 03/29/2004 4:44:36 PM PST by vannrox

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To: vannrox
Making enough low-energy x-rays to flood even a gram of Hf is not really that easy. You would not use a dentist's machine!

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http://www.sandia.gov/pulspowr/facilities/saturn.html
41 posted on 03/29/2004 7:13:05 PM PST by DBrow
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To: vannrox; All
Very interesting.

Hafnium, chemically very similar to Zirconium, has a very interesting set of Nuclear Properties.

In the design and fabrication of very small Nuclear Reactors, Uranium of virtually Bomb Grade [approx 90% U235] is loaded into a reactor made of Zirconium, which is transparent to Neutrons.

Control rods, which must be Opaque to Neutrons, are preferably fabricated from Hafnium.

The result is an extremely small reactor, allowing two or more to be carried on a Nuclear Submarine, even relatively small research Subs.

I have wondered, since studing Engineering at the College which housed 3 reactors [one critical, two subcritical] in New York City, whether Hafnium's efficiency as a control material might involve this kind of State Change, i.e. some form of Energy Pumping.

Hafnium, named for the Roman name for Copenhagen, Denmark, was discovered in Zirconium ores in the 1920's, and its discovery was announced by Niels Bohr in Stockholm in his Nobel Prize acceptance speech.

42 posted on 03/29/2004 7:15:58 PM PST by Lael (Patent Law...not a single Supreme Court Justice is qualified to take the PTO Bar Exam!)
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To: vannrox
Think of how big a boom it'll be if they use fullnium instead of hafnium!
43 posted on 03/29/2004 7:34:23 PM PST by manic4organic (An organic conservative)
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To: vannrox
 this technology could trigger the next arms race


kAcknor Sez:

Next arms race?

Crap.

Ever since the day Oog learned to throw a rock and Moog picked up a broken branch and smacked him for it we have had an "Arms Race".

We will continue to have one as long as there are still two people left.

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44 posted on 03/29/2004 8:15:31 PM PST by kAcknor
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To: manic4organic
Think of how big a boom it'll be if they use fullnium instead of hafnium!

Fullnium??? Where did you go to school? At dear old Whassamatta U it was referred to as Wholenium!

just wait until they discover Dubyanium...

45 posted on 03/29/2004 9:24:48 PM PST by Mackey (".. the Prophet... consummated his marriage when she ['Aisha] was nine years old." -Sunnah)
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To: vannrox
grazer bump!
46 posted on 03/29/2004 9:27:54 PM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: Mackey
It's similar to unobtainium, but shinier. :)
47 posted on 03/29/2004 9:31:41 PM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: Constantine XIII
As it happens, the plant where I work produces zirconium, about 2 million pounds of nuclear grade metal per year. Since hafnium is always present in Zr ores, and must be removed, we also have a fair chunk of that lying around too... there hasn't been much of a market for Hf, so it just accumulates.
48 posted on 03/29/2004 9:43:41 PM PST by Mackey (".. the Prophet... consummated his marriage when she ['Aisha] was nine years old." -Sunnah)
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To: blackdog
That's about right 2.2 pounds to a kilogram, a shade under 500 grams to a pound.
49 posted on 03/30/2004 2:27:48 AM PST by wretchard
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To: maro
But what's the strategic difference? Aren't they both weapons that kill everything in a vicinity? As such, each has drawbacks.

It looks like there's no lower limit to how small you can make a hafnium device. This becomes significant in the age of nanotech and small robots. Visualize a bumblebee-size robot flying in an enemy leader's window and blowing up the room

50 posted on 03/30/2004 4:19:13 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (That which does not kill me had better be able to run away damn fast.)
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To: DBrow
Making enough low-energy x-rays to flood even a gram of Hf is not really that easy. You would not use a dentist's machine!

More compact machines will be developed over time. And the two pieces do not necessarily have to be in the same place. Visualize a bomb that disperses a cloud of hafnium on top of a target, which is then illuminated by an x-ray laser from the bomber.

51 posted on 03/30/2004 4:30:03 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (That which does not kill me had better be able to run away damn fast.)
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Yup, then all we'd need is an x-ray laser of the correct wavelength. We don't have one now, and there won't be one for the foreseeable future due to physics constraints.

Lawrence Livermore Labs got accused of fraud when they said they could biuld one, pumped with a fission bomb. The point was, the fission bomb would produce thousands of times more damage than the laser, so why not just drop the bomb and be done with it?
52 posted on 03/30/2004 6:15:34 AM PST by DBrow
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To: vannrox
PICTURES!!! You know the rules. Pictures of the goods!!
Anyway, here's the W-54 Davy Crockett atomic bazooka:


This is 1954 technology and we produced a couple of thousand of them. They were decommissioned. A couple of these babies would get Osama out of his cave...


53 posted on 03/30/2004 6:43:38 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: SauronOfMordor
That assumes we know which window.
54 posted on 03/30/2004 9:37:18 AM PST by maro
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