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Hamas says ``God declared war'' against Bush
AP ^ | 3-28-04 | IBRAHIM BARZAK

Posted on 03/29/2004 5:25:41 AM PST by truthandlife

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:46:14 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Alouette
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61 posted on 04/03/2004 11:14:04 AM PST by My Favorite Headache (Rush 30th Anniversary Tour Tickets On Sale Now!)
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To: NRA2BFree; Luis Gonzalez; tpaine
Luis:

I have to agree with NRA. You called me a bad word. The first time in all my discussions on FR that has happened. These people are also aggreived. It is you who must learn to handle disagreements and the art of argument.

I found your points and analogies illogical.

Please be assured that I will give you a wide berth in the future. I suggest you do likewise with me.



Roy
62 posted on 04/04/2004 5:05:38 PM PDT by Roy Tucker
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To: Luis Gonzalez
This Hamas piece of doggie poop says God declared whatever it is that his schizophrenic islamisist mind happens to perceive just now. Now let the free and mighty press do what it is supposed to do and challenge his nuttiness to prove that God declared it, or anything close. Who did God declare it to. When? Where? Where is the proof?

Until proven otherwise, I say that God did not declare it. Methinks that, like most islamasists terrorists.this guy is nuts and dangerous, and needing to be killed or caught and sent to Devil's Island, pending permanent transfer to the Devil's sanitarium, aka Hell. a place where rent is cheap or non-existant and islamists are prominently situated.
63 posted on 04/04/2004 5:56:12 PM PDT by mathurine
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To: Luis Gonzalez
About nuking those Muslim nations into oblivion with the push of a button...doing that would kill us all.

False. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that we launched a Boomer-sub's worth of nuclear ordnance on the Muslim world. Each sub contains 20 SLBM's containing 8 MIRVs with a payload of 333 kilotons each. That's 160 nuclear warheads with a total payload of around 53 megatons -- enough to do the job.

The Soviets, as you may or may not know, detonated a single 50+ megaton nuclear device in the 1950's on their own soil. No doubt the critters in the immediate area were a bit bummed, but we all survived it. .....including everyone in the USSR. And how about the nuclear tests we ourselves conducted in the Bikini Islands (South Pacific)? A 10 megaton device here, a 15 megaton device there, and aside from some native islanders and a few unsuspecting folks on a Japanese fishing vessel who drifted too close to the action, there were no human casualties.

Even we we unleashed the full ordnance from two Boomers on the Muslim world - 320 warheads, over 100 total megatons - I highly doubt we here in the U.S. would be affected by the fallout.

64 posted on 04/04/2004 8:58:11 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
Here's the "Muslim world"...start dropping bombs, and tell me how nations like China, Pakistan, and Indonesia would not retaliate, or how the fallout would not affect the rest of us.

By the way..say goodbye to Israel, wiped off the face of the Earth by US nuclear bombs.


65 posted on 04/05/2004 7:18:07 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Pátria, pero sin amo.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
tell me how nations like China, Pakistan, and Indonesia would not retaliate

Indonesia is nukeless, so they couldn't retaliate. Pakistan has nukes, but A) they'd all be destroyed in our initial attack, and B) they only have medium-range missiles (whose range is not intercontinental) even if some of them survived. China would probably be somewhat affected by the fallout (although much of it would be dissipated by the time it reached their major population centers), but they wouldn't retaliate against us for two reasons: 1) they'd be just as happy to see the Muslim world destroyed as we would be, and 2) if they shot off ICBMs at us they'd be wiped clean off the face of the earth, and they're smart enough to know it know it. Unlike the (majority of the) Muslim world, China isn't in the suicide business.

or how the fallout would not affect the rest of us.

I already did so in my last post.

By the way..say goodbye to Israel, wiped off the face of the Earth by US nuclear bombs.

Ah, finally you bring up a decent point. Considering the west to east wind patterns, Israel would most likely be in the fallout zone if we detonated a huge # of nukes in (Muslim) North Africa. But, aside from Egypt, the annihilation of sparsely populated No. Africa would require very nukes. ......not enough to seriously threaten Israel with fallout. We'd have to be careful with Egypt, though. ....it's a little too close (to Israel) for comfort (although the fallout from there would more likely affect their neighbors to the immediate east on the Arabian Peninsula, who would obviously be destroyed anyway). So Israel would be fine if we're careful.

Understand that the nuclear fallout from 200 - 300 nukes directed at the Muslim world is nothing compared to the horror stories we all heard during the Cold War about what would happen if the U.S. and Soviet Union got into an all-out nuclear exhange. We could all survive the former without much of a problem, where the latter (invovling literally thousands of times more ordnance) would likely create the "nuclear winter" conditions Carl Sagan and Co. all warned us about a few decades ago.

....So don't worry yourself ;)

Oh btw, just in case you're wondering, I'm not advocating this course of action against the Muslim world. ......yet, anyway.

66 posted on 04/05/2004 9:04:21 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
My first and most important decent point is that your idiotic scenario of The United States committing genocide, and killing hundreds of millions of people based on the actions of a small percentage of the whole of the Muslims in the world, makes you as deranged as the most dangerous terrorist out there.
67 posted on 04/05/2004 8:07:13 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Pátria, pero sin amo.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
You're both sick and stupid, Luis. But that's far from a secret around these parts.
68 posted on 04/05/2004 9:35:31 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Perhaps you would be wise to learn from the example of God, whom you claim to so espouse.

Obviously, viewing "The Passion" failed to teach you ANY humility.

And that's a pity Luis. You've got great debating skills, if you would only choose to use them properly. As it is, your replies fail to be convincing, even when the facts of the argument are on your side.

69 posted on 04/05/2004 10:07:55 PM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH (A vote for George W. Bush IS a vote for principle!)
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To: TOUGH STOUGH
Let me get this right.

You slide right by the people advocating the genocide of hundreds of millions of God's children, and come lecture me about God and humility?







70 posted on 04/05/2004 10:18:41 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Pátria, pero sin amo.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
advocating the genocide of hundreds of millions

Interesting how you missed this part of my post #66: "Oh btw, just in case you're wondering, I'm not advocating this course of action against the Muslim world."

The point of my post, which (unsurprisingly) seems to be lost on you, was to correct your ignorant assertion that destroying the Muslim world with nukes would "kill us all." Now brush up on your reading comprehension skills and get back to me in a few weeks.

71 posted on 04/06/2004 9:52:27 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
Don't let the fact that I was discussing another individual, the one that suggested that the US and Israel could obliterate the entire Muslim world with the push of a button (forget the fact that Israel would destroy itself in the process) prior to your dissertation on the ease of doing such a thing.

But hey!

It's all about you all the time, isn't it?
72 posted on 04/06/2004 10:02:34 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Pátria, pero sin amo.)
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