‘Under God’ was never intended: Commentary(Ellen Goodman Anti-God Barf Alert)

Spokesman Review ^ | 03/28/2004 | Ellen Goodman

[writer33]

"It wasn't until the 1950s that Congress added “under God” as a nervous Cold War response to “godless communism.”

Hey, Ellen. You *%#@!. We've never done anything in a nervous response. It's all well thought out. And it makes perfect sense.

This was all in response to a foregone conclusion that our Founding Fathers revered God. Ever wondered why journal entries read, "In the year of our Lord, etc..."

That's because God was a foregone conclusion. And until the screwed up, liberal mecca, wish we could change them sixties, atheism was not made public. Only now a days we have one man trying to force the will of his and a relatively small percentage of Americans, on the American people. It is disgusting.

And Ellen. When you get up there, ask God what he thinks before rendering judgement!

I am officially apologizing for my overtly partisan paper. They've allowed their freedom of speech to warp their sense of decency by printing this commentary article. I'm deeply sorry.

[Cicero]

This is the sort of argument over religion and patriotism the Founding Fathers wanted to avoid.

So, avoid it.

[RBroadfoot]

I don't pledge any allegiance to any republic unless it's under God.

[writer33]

Here, here. I absolutely agree.

[easonc52]

Here, here. And now I understand they want it out of court swearing also.

[IronJack]

The atheist has not only kept up a running custody battle with his daughter's born-again Christian mother, he's kept up a running battle with his daughter's school, his state and his government.

Yeah. What a lovable guy. He's the Barney of God-haters.

Leave it to the Left to make a martyr out of such a dubious human being.

[easonc52]

Excuse me. I meant the 'so help you God' part.

[writer33]

It's enough to make you sick.

[luvbach1]

I, too, pledged allegiance to the flag before the addition of "under God." Frankly, to the best of my recollection, nobody I know of missed it at the time. Although I have no strong objection to the addition of "under God" because the founders frequently alluded to a creator, I would have preferred that the pledge had been left alone. It's the conservative in me I guess.

[blue-duncan]

I am sure Ellen just forgot to mention keeping lapsed Catholic Democrat politicians out of black church pulpits during election season since that would also violate the separation of church and state.

[Old North State]

This would be a good time for the court to look for another emanation from a constitutional penumbra. If it worked for abortion rights then the Marxist left wingers like Goodman should have no problem, unless they are hypocrites.

[writer33]

I'm sure you're right.

[Steel and Fire and Stone]

But remember that adding “In God We Trust” was also a political sop to opponents after Lincoln (???) rejected their proposal to insert Jesus Christ into the preamble of the Constitution.

Whaaaat? I guess there could have been a constitutional convention during the 1860's where Lincoln served as the bulwark against some "radical right" conservative Christians, when they tried to mess with the constitution's preamble?

I just don't remember studying this "way back when" I studied American History, in high school or college.

SFS

[supercat]

This reminds me of a story told me by a relative who used to work as an English judge. From what he said, the courts in England allow witnesses four choices:

• Swear on a Bible
• Swear on a Torah
• Swear on a Koran
• If none of those is applicable, "affirm"

A motorist was charged with speeding. He declined to swear on any of the holy books, stating none was applicable. In testifying, however, he said "I swear to God I wasn't going over 60". Things that make one go "hmm...".

[writer33]

I like you alot too. Good points. :)

[writer33]

"I just don't remember studying this "way back when" I studied American History, in high school or college."


I didn't either. Maybe it was liberal education. Who knows? :)

[dracos]

Amen! So what if the original Pledge of Allegiance did not have "under God". It does now, and that is because we are a nation that is "under God". Why should we have to cowtow to the liberals and the ACLU about this? Most of the founding fathers went to church. It does not matter which church they went to -- they realized that this courty is based upon religious principals. Whether Catholic, Baptist or Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints, this is what we, the majority, beleive. Stay out of our schools and communities.

[cookcounty]

Great Quotes from History, by Ellen Goodman. Contained in this very slim volume are inspiring passages like:

"..We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all liberals are equally the result of accidental forces, and that all liberals are endowed by the laws of physics with certain inalienable benefits. Among these are abortion, free health care, and gay schools...."

[writer33]

Great stuff, Chicago. :) HA!

[John H K]

Amen! So what if the original Pledge of Allegiance did not have "under God". It does now, and that is because we are a nation that is "under God".

Lessee, the generation that said the pledge WITHOUT "Under God" successfully crushed Nazism and Japanese agression.

The generation that first started saying it WITH "Under God" gave us Jane Fonda, John Kerry, the Weather Underground, Hippies, Vietnam protests, etc.

Hmmmmmmm.