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Don't Forget About Your Conservative Base
The New York Times ^
| 03/28/04
| LYN NOFZIGER
Posted on 03/27/2004 7:33:37 PM PST by Pokey78
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posted on
03/27/2004 7:33:38 PM PST
by
Pokey78
To: Pokey78
bttt
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posted on
03/27/2004 7:35:44 PM PST
by
ConservativeMan55
(There is no problem so great that it cannot be solved with high powered explosives.)
To: Pokey78
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posted on
03/27/2004 7:36:06 PM PST
by
Texasforever
(I am all flamed out.)
To: Texasforever
Thanks for pointing out the contrast.
Looks like the Slimes is engaged in some good-old fashioned divide-and-conquer strategy. Get the conservatives riled up at Bush so hopefully they'll stay home.
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posted on
03/27/2004 7:37:44 PM PST
by
ServesURight
(FReecerely Yours,)
To: Pokey78
I'll sleep well tonight knowing that the NYT is concerned about my politics and my candidate.
To: ServesURight
Conservatives pay attention without the help of the Old Gray Whore, and are already riled up.
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posted on
03/27/2004 7:43:44 PM PST
by
Doohickey
("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
To: Pokey78
The Bush administration may be moving leftward in the belief that Reagan conservatives have no place else to go. If so, it is a colossal mistake. Reagan conservatives do have someplace to go: it's called home. They can sit on their hands and not vote at all.Damn straight. We've done it before and we'll do it again if necessary.
To: Pokey78
No problems Lyn. Bush people here do their best to alienate conservatives. If Bush loses, it will be those horrible conservatives that did it.
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posted on
03/27/2004 7:47:54 PM PST
by
cynicom
To: Pokey78
The Times is trying to stir up trouble, of course. But some of this is true.
For instance, the No Child Left Behind education act pleases almost nobody. Most of the people who work in education are leftists, and they issue a constant stream of complaint that this law is bureaucratic, expensive, cumbersome, and a general pain in the neck. Therefore it probably has done more harm than good among liberals. At the same time, it offends conservatives, who either resent the money it costs or think that money would be better controlled at the local level.
As I anticipated, the immigration reform proposal caused such a firestorm of protest from the base that Bush seems to have dropped it. He is unlikely to follow up on it, and congress is unlikely to pass anything along those lines.
But why keep annoying the base with this stuff, when it's not clear that it does much to bring in votes from the middle? I still plan to vote for Bush, but I'm annoyed that he has been persuaded to do some things that will probably lose him some votes from conservatives with shorter fuses.
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posted on
03/27/2004 7:49:22 PM PST
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: Pokey78
We've got your back Mr. President.
BTW: No one at the NYT or in the Kerry campaign has the slightest idea what that means.
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posted on
03/27/2004 7:52:26 PM PST
by
EternalHope
(Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
To: Pokey78
I'll definately vote Bush/Cheney this year, but why the heck did W feel the need to lurch left with this Medicare and amnesty for illegals crap?
There is nothing wrong with a true conservative platform, particularly against the backdrop of the socialist agenda of the Democrats.
A majority of Americans will vote for a true conservative platform. That's all you need to win. The haters and bigots of the left will never vote GOP, no matter what. Reagan only got his crossover dems because of their disgust with Carter.
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posted on
03/27/2004 8:01:04 PM PST
by
LA Conservative
(evil triumphs when good men do nothing)
To: Pokey78
Is the Times' op-ed page theme today "We bash Bush from all sides"? That's the third column in a row I've seen telling W what he needs to do to get re-elected! Sheesh.
To: Pokey78
Now that the NY Slimes has co-opted my prior complaints, I abjectly withdraw them all. Sorry, George, you are, you've gotta be, The Man. Doan screw with the expiration of the AWB please, but my vote is humbly pledged elsewise.
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posted on
03/27/2004 8:19:42 PM PST
by
kcar
(Who would OBL vote for?)
To: Pokey78
President Bush's proposal to legitimize the presence of roughly 10 million illegal aliens, as well as what appears to be his indifference toward tightening border security, makes many conservatives irate.Quite an understatement.
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posted on
03/27/2004 8:21:19 PM PST
by
South40
(No amensty for ILLEGALS!)
To: Pokey78
President Bush's proposal to legitimize the presence of roughly 10 million illegal aliens, as well as what appears to be his indifference toward tightening border security, makes many conservatives irate. But it's O.K. for Bush to do this, because after all, he's a Republican.
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posted on
03/27/2004 8:25:41 PM PST
by
Euro-American Scum
(A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
To: NYCVirago
This isn't a bash Bush article! It's constructive criticism by someone who knows a thing or two about politics.
The article was written by Lyn Nofziger, a key conservative advisor to Ronald Reagan when he was Governor and President. I'd take it at face value, for what its worth. Nofziger knows what he's talking about. I'm sure the article was brought to the President's attention by some astute politico working in his administration. And I'm sure the President will take Nofziger's advice seriously.
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posted on
03/27/2004 8:41:05 PM PST
by
Reagan Man
(The choice is clear. Reelect BUSH-CHENEY !)
To: Reagan Man
NewsweekFebruary 2, 1981
Former campaign press secretary Lyn Nofziger, now White House political liaison, is poised for further complaints from conservatives. "The first thing were going to do is listen to them," says Nofziger. "So much of the frustration in the past has been that they didn't have anyone who would listen to them. The second thing we're going to do is try as much as possible to remind ourselves how we got here and what we promised to do when when we got here."
To: Reagan Man
This isn't a bash Bush article! It's constructive criticism by someone who knows a thing or two about politics. I'm sorry, I should have clarified what I said. Let me put it this way -- I'm quite suspicious of the Times' running three articles giving advice to Bush today. The message I think the Times is trying to send, no matter how honorable the intentions of the writers are (and I'm sure that Nofziger, Campbell, and Dole's intentions are all honorable) is that Bush is in trouble from all sides of his party. Call me a cynic, but the Times obviously isn't interested in helping get Bush re-elected, that's for sure.
Check out today's lead editorial, "A Long, Long Muddle, which begins with "George Bush's vision of the nation's future will undoubtedly be one focus of the presidential campaign. We suggest the debate start with the question of whether Mr. Bush actually has one." I don't think it's a coincidence that these op-eds are running on the same day as that editorial.
To: primeval patriot
Good one.
Reagan, Nofziger and the rest, listened to the GOP's conservative base back then. Reagan united conservatives like never before and I was proud to campaign for Reagan.
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posted on
03/27/2004 9:03:57 PM PST
by
Reagan Man
(The choice is clear. Reelect BUSH-CHENEY !)
To: NYCVirago
I read all three articles. I don't agree with you. Printing three articles from three different political perspectives, should be viewed as a plus for the Bush campaign.
Constructive criticism can be a useful tool.
The NYTimes is read mainly by liberals and those liberals have already made their mind up. The focus of these three articles was to the GOP's centrist, moderate and conservative factions.
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posted on
03/27/2004 9:11:09 PM PST
by
Reagan Man
(The choice is clear. Reelect BUSH-CHENEY !)
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