Posted on 03/23/2004 2:42:17 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
HAHAHAHA. Thanks for the laugh Poo. I have four other jack booted friends over, and we all got a good ol belly laugh out of that one.
How much do you have to pay them to be your friends?
Well since you asked, a couple of chilled Margarita's, and some BBQd Pacific Salmon. What's funny, is these jack booted thugs are all wearing shorts and deck shoes...Hehehe......
You're really a kick Poo. Even if you are an illegal alien sympathizer. Just keep bumping this thread. I do appreciate it. Back to the patio. I'll check back with you in a while Poo. Keep the funny post coming. I love it.
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Remember when government workers and politicians were considered public, civil servants?
Now it's the job of choice due to the big money, generous benefits, and top of the line benefits, all on the backs of the little peon, taxpayers.
Government is only growing larger.
They just built a new city hall not too far from me. It's the fanciest, most opulent building in the entire area.
The parking lot is full of near new cars, they have beautiful landscaped, secured, and guarded parking.
There are lavish fountains, landscaping, safe, secure bullet proof windows for their employees, guards, closed circuit cameras to watch for angry tax payers, and to top it off, they built one of the most expensive restaurants in the area right across the street, so the government employees don't have to travel far to those yummy, tax payer paid lunches.
What an odd accusation.
Lets see, I post a thread that clearly shows how govrnment employees wages are sky rocketing, as are their benefits and pensions, and you call me an anti liberty, jack booted thug, who sucks on the welfare teat?
Your complaint has far less to do with the government wages going than with the fact that you're not getting any of those fabulous wages, benefits, and pensions. Heck, your loudest complaint was that these jobs weren't being held by "real Americans."
"There has been a wealth transfer. It has gone from the citizens to the people in government".
This should be shouted from mountaintops by conservatives everywhere.
I generally have little admiration for "civil servants" at both local and federal levels. They too often forget who's putting the bread on their tables and paying for their overgenerous leave, retirement, and health care benefits.
The Federal gov't is the largest employer in our nation.
Of course, it's hard to draw any meaningful, justifiable conclusion from that fact alone. I mean, who "should" be the largest employer in the USA? General Motors? Wal-Mart? Microsoft? Boeing?
Why thank you blader.
Hows that Poobah?
I clearly stated that since this is again tax season, I thought it would be a good idea to bump the thread.
Since you came to this thread, you have attacked me and others, called names, and tried to make those of us in the private sector the focus of this big government problem.
You're the one that stated all this is all the fault of the private sector, as they demanded all of this, implying that the reason all these government employees are working in such nice beautiful, landscaped, new tax paid buildings and guarded, secure facilities, and the reason their benefits, and salaries, and pensions are some of the best to be found anywhere, is because the tax payers in the private sector demanded it.
Yeah, how about that?
That is EXACTLY what the taxpayers demanded.
They may not have specifically had it in mind--perhaps they thought that all those government "freebies" would be provided by unpaid serfs--but it's an inevitable consequence of outsourcing stuff to the government.
Of course, it's hard to draw any meaningful, justifiable conclusion from that fact alone.
So you see no "justifiable conclusion to draw" even though you know government, and government spending on the backs of the tax payers is growing by leaps and bounds, and government employees salaries, medical benefits, and pensions continue to grow and improve, yet most in the private sector have had their wages cut, benefits reduced, and even some of their pensions are now in jeopardy. Yet you draw no meaningful conclusion to all of this?
Why not?
That is EXACTLY what the taxpayers demanded.
Well Poobop, I am so glad you stated this.
So when I go to downtown LA, or downtown Chicago for that matter, and go into any of the thousands of goverment building, where upon I observe hundreds of thousands of government employees, most overweight, with 3 inch fingernails, and they are all moving in slow motion, like they have just been offended. As one of the common folk searchs for a parking spot, one can't help but notice the hundreds of exclusive parking lots, just for government employees, and most all are full of new cars, with guards posted, security cameras etc.
And then we find out that government employee salaries, their medical benefits, and their pensions are endlessly improving and growing.
And you say all of this is the fault of the private sector, and the private sector demanded this of their government.
The taxpayers wanted government to take care of them from womb to tomb. They can't say "Well, I didn't want THIS or THAT consequence of my decision."
When you make a decision, you're either willing to accept all the consequences of that decision--good and bad alike--or you are just not a mature human being.
The taxpaying public wanted government to do all the things that government does these days.
When they said, "OK, government, do it," they opted for the results of saying that.
And the beat goes on today--in my city, there's already a group of private-sector citizens working to raise local taxes even more because the city overspent its budget by a huge amount.
Look at it this way: somebody built those beautiful buildings, right? And they got paid for doing so.
Right there, you have one element of your big-government constituency. Whenever local, state, or federal government expands, there are several sectors that make out like bandits: architects, general contractors, construction unions (thank you, Davis-Bacon Act), and real estate agents (think of temporary office space while the new government building is built).
Because the stand-alone statement, "The Federal gov't is the largest employer in our nation," is meaningless without any additional information. By how much is it the largest employer? If you eliminate active military personnel from the number, is it still the largest? Second largest? Third largest? How large is too large?
Believe me, I despise the bloat of government at all levels. We've become a nation of teat-suckling socialist pigs, and we have the government payroll to show for it. But, my point was just that being the "largest" means nothing, just as saying my state ranks 39th in teacher salaries. Some people spout statistics such as that one, and expect everyone to respond with something like, "THAT'S TERRIBLE!" when the fact is, when there are 50 states, even if all teachers nationwide are making good money, one of the states is going to be 39th.
Similarly, even if it was reduced to the right size -- I know, it's a pipe dream -- the Fed gov't could very well still be the nation's largest employer, simply because of the DoD. But, I don't have that information at my disposal.
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