PUBLIC PAYROLL SOARS (wealth transfer gone from citizens to people in Govt)

LA Daily News ^ | 3./22/04 | Troy Anderson

[Joe Hadenuf]

At all levels of government, the rate of compensation has gone up much more rapidly than it has in the private sector and, most importantly, faster than the personal income of the people who pay for this

Remember when government workers and politicians were considered public, civil servants?

Now it's the job of choice due to the big money and generous benefits, all on the backs of the little peon, taxpayers.

Government is only growing larger.

They just built a new city hall not too far from me. It's the fanciest, most opulent building in the entire area.

The parking lot is full of near new cars, they have beautiful landscaped, secured, and guarded parking.

There are lavish fountains, landscaping, safe, secure bullet proof windows for their employees, guards, closed circuit cameras to watch for angry tax payers, and to top it off, they built one of the most expensive restaurants in the area right across the street, so the government employees don't have to travel far to those yummy, tax payer paid lunches.

[searchandrecovery]

It's a form of welfare to be a government employee - low job expectations, little chance to be fired, just raise taxes if more money is needed, retire at 45. ESPECIALLY state "workers".

[Voltage]

When Estonia was under communist rule, the government officials lived in a secluded forested area away from the capitol of Tallinn. They lived like kings, and each day were brought to their offices in limos, to return to their retreat each evening.

On August 24, 1991, they didn't show up, rather they headed for the USSR border. They apparently didn't want to stay around for the celebration of the end of communist rule.

It couldn't happen here of course....

[John Jorsett]

(I instructed the Admin Moderator to remove the other thread).

What was wrong with it?

[tyen]

Vote with your feet. My business partner and I have agreed that long-term (by 2010), we are re-domiciling our company offshore as a foreign company simply because we expect this trend to eventually make it more profitable to do business outside of the nation than inside it. The toll on the overall economy extracted by this cancerous growth of government cannot be overstated.

An interim measure I'm looking at is moving to New Hampshire to join the Free State Project, then moving offshore when we can. Realistically, I think that project will only temporarily halt the phenomena in very localized region, though I would really like to be proven wrong because I love this nation. We have concluded that this voter-fed insanity will not stop until it is forced to stop through external circumstances. I'm concerned it will take a calamitous economic disaster to shock this nation's citizens back into demanding prudent governance by themselves rather than of themselves.

My business partner's and my general idea is to do what we can to starve out this growth, while working from within to do what we can (up to a point --- after that point, we are physically getting out of Dodge) to reverse it. No use fighting something if you let it sap your own strength against you at the same time, we figure.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Some uh... misunderstanding.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Why no, of course not......

[RGSpincich]

Government employees are only part of the problem. Private consulting firms, often comprised of former "civil servants", are a huge draw down on the budget of any public project. Consultants to assess consultants in many cases.

[WhiteGuy]

Since the old thread was removed,

I'll make my point again.

I guess this is where all the new jobs have come from (as the current administration claims)

[Joe Hadenuf]

I'm concerned it will take a calamitous economic disaster to shock this nation's citizens back into demanding prudent governance by themselves rather than of themselves.

I agree.

[Thebaddog]

The federal government is one of the biggest employers in the Chicago area. 70,000 plus.

[Joe Hadenuf]

That is an interesting story.

I've often wondered why many government buildings and government offices seem to be turning into quite beautiful, armed, and guarded fortresses, with top shelf security.

[Not A Snowbird]

they built one of the most expensive restaurants in the area right across the street, so the government employees don't have to travel far to those yummy, tax payer paid lunches.

Nobody's buying my lunch. Am I working for the wrong agency? (/irriation off)

[Joe Hadenuf]

I guess this is where all the new jobs have come from (as the current administration claims)

Ever notice that the people that fill these positions, many times treat the lowly tax payers with utter contempt, and have attitudes of royal arrogance? It's glaring.

[Joe Hadenuf]

they built one of the most expensive restaurants in the area right across the street, so the government employees don't have to travel far to those yummy, tax payer paid lunches.

Nobody's buying my lunch. Am I working for the wrong agency? (/irriation off)

From that, I take it your a government employee.

What I meant was these government employee's that are crowding this very expensive restaurant across from the beautiful new city hall facility, are buy their expensive lunches with their compensation from the tax payers. Are the tax payers in your area not paying for the government employee's wages, salaries and benefits?

Did you not read this article? Do you see nothing wrong here?

[Joe Hadenuf]

The federal government is one of the biggest employers in the Chicago area. 70,000 plus.

Can you imagine, 70,000 government employee's in one city? Unbelievable!

[Not A Snowbird]

Thank you for explaining what you meant. It sounded like we all had expense accounts or something.

Yes, I read the article. Forgive me if I resent being lumped into the category of overpaid, underworked, unmotivated lazy non-workers by most of the posters responding to the article.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Government employees are only part of the problem. Private consulting firms, often comprised of former "civil servants", are a huge draw down on the budget of any public project. Consultants to assess consultants in many cases.

That's a problem too. So the government is contracting with these former "civil servants" that are now collecting big time government pensions?

[Stew Padasso]

Elitist Trash Bump

[oust the louse]

"Government employees are only part of the problem. Private consulting firms, often comprised of former "civil servants", are a huge draw down on the budget of any public project. Consultants to assess consultants in many cases."

Case and point,here in Cleveland the airport expansion has paid close to 16 million in legal fees to a firm that the ex-mayor(who hired said firm) now work for....hmmmm.