Out-of-state money pours into Toomey-Specter race

Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | Posted on Thu, Mar. 18, 2004 | By Carrie Budoff, Inquirer Staff Writer

[.cnI redruM]

Please PA, do your nation a favor. Rid us of RINO Arlen SPECTRE.

[thegreatbeast]

Please retire the architect of the Single Bullet Theory and the defense attorney of murderer Ira "Earth Day" Einhorn.

[ArGee]

We will if we can.

But remember, PA went for Gore. Philly and Pittsburgh kill conservative ambitions here. Shalom.

[el_texicano]

When is the primary that decides who wins between Specter/Toomey????

[.cnI redruM]

It will be tough, but SPECTRE is really just another reliable vote in Tom Daschele's coterie. He, McPain and Chuck Hagel should form a group of Senate RINOs known as "Caddies For Kerry". It would be more honest than the way they do business now.

[ABE]

I think it's April 27th, but don't quote me on that.

[capydick]

The club's 527, which has spent at least $500,000 on anti-Specter TV ads, raised $4 million in the last two years, Keating said. The donor list is dominated by financial firms and leaders of conservative causes.

Oh the irony. Did the guy who cites foreign legal jargon in United States courts vote for CFR? I'll bet he did. May he reap what he has sown.

[Tribune7]

ping

[Paleo Conservative]

Yes and this undermines the whole premise of the Senate which is equal representation of all states regardless of population. With so much money for these races coming from out of state, do senators who get elected represent their constituents' interests or their donors'.

The 16th amendment radically changed the relative power of the federal government versus the state governments. Prior to the 16th amendment, the state legislatures appointed senators. This meant that senators had lots of incentives to prevent passage of legislation that would take power from the state government and give more power to the federal government.

Direct election of senators means senators are more concerned with pleasing the marginal voter within each state to get reelected every six years rather than maintaining good relations with the state legislature back home. Another thing that should be mentioned is that marginal voters can be located anywhere within a state. When legislatures elected senators it was important to pay attention to different constituencies throughout a state, because gain a large number of votes in a highly concentrated geographical area would not help elect a senator. A senate candidate would have to win votes from state legislators representing at least 50% + 1 of the districts in each house of the state legislature. With direct election of senators, a senator can safely ignore vast areas of his or her own state and pile up huge majorities in large urban areas. This is why states with very large urban areas elect much more leftists senators.

[dis.kevin]

I have never given money to a political candidate before but I have given the Toomey campaign about $50.00. It is all I can afford but if Pat can defeat Spector it will be the best money I have ever spent, well, except for my wedding rings and marriage license.

[Thoro]

That was the 17th amendment. The 16th was the creation of income tax, another great idea. /sarcasm.

The 17th amendment really needs to be repealed. Campaign finance reform would have never have been needed if it didn't exist. The founding fathers set this style of government up purposefully, and rather ingeniously. It's a shame that so few people realize the difference between a democracy and a republic. The 17th amendment made us less of a republic and more of a democracy, which in result made our darling senators more concerned with the momentary whims of the population. The house of representatives was set up for that purpose, and the senate was set up to temper that impulse.

[Thoro]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/619597/posts

A link to a Freeper's essay about the 17th amendment.

[Temple Owl]

Just a theory, but The left-wing liberal Inquirer has been very kind to Pat Toomey. It could be they are hoping a Democrat will win in the general election. Meanwhile vote for Pat Toomey.

[Temple Owl]

Another thing. Once these guys are in, they are entrenched. They are there forever because the machine will not remove them. We need term limits.

[ArGee]

April 27, 2004. Go to pattoomey.org for all the good info. on the race.

Shalom.

[ArGee]

I think your tag line needs modification. Kerry voted both yes and no on the money to pay for it.

Shalom.

[ArGee]

but I have given the Toomey campaign about $50.00.

I hope you like junk mail.

OTOH: Toomey always sends a stamped envelope. You can cut the stamps off and use them.

I don't mean to be rude, but like you, I decide how much I have to give, then give it. When they take my first donation as a sign there may be more, it makes me grumpy.

One of the campaign's recent tricks was to mail me a $1 bill in a clear envelope so I could see the dollar. I mailed the bill back in the stamped envelope. That way they only wasted $.63 plus the original postage.

Shalom.

[ArGee]

It could be they are hoping a Democrat will win in the general election.

If the Republicans could hold the Senate with a Democrat senator from PA, I would vote for a Democrat against Sen. Spectacle. That's because Spectacle is likely to be head of the Judiciary committee. That would be worse than another junior Dim. senator.

As they say, "Go, Pat! Go."

Shalom.

[.cnI redruM]

Oh well, he mislead me. Yeah, that's the ticket. My excuse for that tag line is that Kerry mislead me.

[el_texicano]

All the best to Pat Toomey. Too bad I can't vote for him. But I'm pulling for him.

It would be so great to see Specter out and Toomey in.

Thanks for the link