Private lands spur a public fight

San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | March 21, 2004 | Jim Wasserman

[farmfriend]

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[zeugma]

I ain't got no problem with these groups spending their OWN money on land. When they force the rest of us to do it for them is where I draw the line.

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!!

[international american]

Add me!

[Carry_Okie]

Maggie, do you still have that post I put up about the Coast Dairies ripoff bookmarked (the one with all the hemlock)?

I can't seem to find it, again.

[teeman8r]

it no longer is necessary for these groups to spend their own money to buy ujp the land, they just regulate it out of the realms of developers...

then they prevent private owners from enjoying it the way they want to but to protect it for other peoples children...

fascistic at best...

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[jeffc]

$140 million for 193 acres of Ballona Wetlands near Los Angeles International Airport

$725K+ per acre? Sounds like alot! Who pays the property taxes on this land? The public?

[farmfriend]

Consider yourself added. If you ever change your mind, this can be a high volume list, just let me know.

[farmfriend]

I can't seem to find it, again.

What would you and SierraWasp do without me? LOL! Your wish is my command!
Water rights fight--farmer regrets selling to an open space trust

[farmfriend]

It is quite literally a protection racket worthy of the mob. Pun intended.

[international american]

I read fast:)

[farmfriend]

I read fast:)

Cool because on this ping list you will get a lot to read!

[Carry_Okie]

What would you and SierraWasp do without me?

Pine in ignorance for want of a searchable archive.

It's an oldie but a goodie.

Well, let's look at some of their (the foundations and the Coast Dairies Partnership) handiwork, shall we? The white stuff you see in the following photo is water hemlock. It is a poisonous weed from the Middle East. The pollen causes birth defects. The quail that eat the fruit don't die, but the bobcats that eat them do. There are thousands of tons of it thanks to the Coastal Conservancy and the Pacific Land Trust.

All images in this post are copyright by Mark Edward Vande Pol. No retransmission reprinting or reuse without written authorization. Please, I want to use these for an article.

Here is what they want to save:

Here is what they are doing to it.
They are "preserving" it.
The highlighted areas are hemlock.
Doesn't it look a little rugged for weeding?

Who's going to go get those weeds now?

And more right above Scott Creek, the principle salmon stream in the area. The clear area is where cattle graze...

And here's what happens when it really gets going.
It's the whole hillside above that building.
The seed lasts at least ten years. Is this an environmental impact?
Where are the air quality authorities?

Let's hear it for our environmental heroes, and their appropriately landscaped sign!

Here is more.

5 posted on 07/29/2002 11:29:50 PM PDT by Carry_Okie

Isn't it pretty?
It's mixed in with tick infested dwarf coyote brush, bush lupines, rare wildflowers, and poison oak.

Who's going to go get those weeds now?

Now here is what the farms do. They are weed buffers that protect nature from the weeds along the State Highway. If farmers got paid for weed control, would they be broke? Would land use be organized differently?

Would this...

...be preferable to this?

or this (the red stuff in the foreground is thistle)...

or this?

Want an alternative?

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posted on 07/29/2002 11:48:44 PM PDT by Carry_Okie

[FormerLib]

Should public money be used for this? How about we use the leftists rhetoric against them?

Invariably, this causes land and housing prices to increase faster than market forces would otherwise dictate, often forcing people on the low end of the income scale to surrender a greater portion of their income to meet housing expenses.

This discriminates against poor people! Coastal land development is a right!

[sauropod]

""We haven't anywhere come close to buying all the land we need, that's been identified by local government and state and federal agencies," said Reed Holderman, vice president and regional director of the Trust for Public Land."

And therein lies the problem. A corrupt cycle of Conservancies and GodGov.

Big Green = Gang Green.

[Savage Beast]

The real problem is when corrupt politicians and enormously rich "environmentalist charities" extort property from vulnerable and defenseless citizens in order to fulfill their self-serving agenda. Such people have enormous resources to use in extracting property from the vulnerable. When they decide to seize someone's property, they can hire billiant lawyers to devise a strategy. If one idea won't work, they'll think of another. The result is the exploitation of the innocent, the vulnerable, and the defenseless by the powerful.

[Carry_Okie]

How about we use the leftists rhetoric against them?

[sergeantdave]

And when all the land is bought "for the public," and "the public" finds berms and fences on the "public property" with signs reading "No Trespassing" will "the public" feel the shaft up its rearend?

Ah, the joys of Marxist public ownership. I hope "the public" enjoys living in 20 by 20 foot sardine cans in their smart growth eco-fascist concentration camps, while annointed elites cavort on closed-off "public" property.

[NYC GOP Chick]

Big Green = Gang Green