Kerry hedges on 1971 KC meeting [for assassination plot]

Knight Ridder ^ | March 19, 2004 | SCOTT CANON

[Jewels1091]

DUH, I wasn't thinking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FBI files = Hitlary!!!!!!

[dc-zoo]

This story is not quite to the boiling point yet but it sure is getting there.

[Hon]

There sure is a lot of "spinning" in this report. For instance:

"In the end, no violence has been attributed to the veterans' organization."

This may be technically true, but only because often times their members were arrested before they were able to undertake their violent plots. (Cf. "the Gainesville 8.")

Why is the media so eager to spin things for Kerry? Does Teresa pay their salaries or George Soros?

[Azzurri]

Confronted with 32-year-old FBI records

How did they get these???????

Easy, they called up Hillary and she put it on a floppy disk for them.

[Gkubly]

The DNC must be having fits about right now. Wouldn't this mean he was involved in a conspiracy to commit murder if he didn't alert law enforcement to this plot?

[Rocketman]

Imagine congressional hearings -- they daily listing in the papers of the proceedings --- and on everyone's lips "What did Kerry Know and when did he know it"?

[vbmoneyspender]

"In the end, no violence has been attributed to the veterans' organization."

If I recall my criminal law correctly, you don't need to actually commit a crime in order to be convicted of engaging in a conspriacy to carry out the crime. All you need is one overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy to commit the crime in order to be convicted of the conspiracy.

[isthisnickcool]

Anyone here ever sit around with a group of people you know and discussed MURDERING someone?

If you have then you would be the only person I've ran across that has.

I've heard about such people. People that want to get their agenda across. And to do so as a group they decide killing people is just fine. I've even seen what those types of people will do. On 9/11. They are called terrorists.

[Hon]

"After new evidence emerged this week, however, the campaign spokesman said Kerry simply mistook his recollection of the Kansas City meeting for the one in St. Louis in June 1971 - when records show Kerry was re-elected to the organization's executive committee despite growing resentment toward his celebrity and his push for moderation."

Hilarious. Only last week (in his Thursday Capitol Hill press conference) Kerry denied being in ST. LOUIS!

Kerry Lied In Press Conference Where He Refused To Apologize For Calling Republicans Liars
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1096436/posts

[randog]

Wouldn't this mean he was involved in a conspiracy to commit murder if he didn't alert law enforcement to this plot?

That'll be his defense--"I didn't alert law enforcement because I knew nothing of the plot, er, drunken ramblings of one of the members....who was behind on his dues, so he technically wasn't a member....you see.."

[ambrose]

not good. this is coming out too soon.

Hitlery is beginning to warm up in the bullpen.

[Hon]

"Barnes of Kansas City first said he remembered Kerry attending the meeting and then, after talking about it with members of the campaign staff, said he could not be sure whether the budding politician was there."

LOL!

[Hon]

"We were rebelling. We were decompressing from our time in Vietnam," Bangert said. "But we were incapable of doing violence."

Right. This is the same guy who said that just a few months before these same US soldiers had been gunning down children, raping and skinning women and crucifying Vietcong.

Joe Bangert's Testimony Before The Winter Soldiers Investigation [Bangert Is Kerry's Vet Organizer]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1092905/posts

[mass55th]

Kerry is so transparent. One can see right through him. He manages to get a position as spokesman for the VVAW and appears extensively representing them and their beliefs. Because he's an opportunist, everything he does is programmed and staged in an attempt to build up a resumé for a future political career. Once his plans are cemented to run for Congress, and the demeanor of the VVAW becomes so radical as to pose a severe threat to that planned political career, he turns his back on his beloved organization and hits the road. He used the military, the VVAW, and his wives for his own personal gains. The guy's nothing but a manipulator and con artist.

[Kakaze]

" "If there are valid FBI surveillance reports from credible sources that place some of those disagreements in Kansas City, we accept that historical footnote in the account of his work to end the difficult and divisive war." "

Historical footnote........historical footnote?

You have to be kidding me, a historical footnote is President Washington having wooden teeth!

This is a discussion of the feasibility of assassination. The conspiracy to murder multiple senators is not just drunken musings or acid flashbacks, it's treason. Simply treason.

[nwrep]

not good. this is coming out too soon.

I know you are thinking strategy, but for me, it is not too soon to shred his credibility. There are certain things you cannot recover from, and this may well be one of them if it gets legs.

[steplock]

"They say their memories do not include Kerry taking part in the radical discussion. "

They must all be lawyers! ??

[Jackson Brown]

in the months leading up to the November meeting. One FBI report suggests that despite his resignation from leadership, Kerry was willing to work for the group after November 1971.

There are NYT and AP news articles and photos dated WELL after November 1971 at Wintersoldier.com where Kerry is identified and/or quoted as "the head of" or "the spokesman for" of VVAW...as late as 1973!

[Hon]

"They say their memories do not include Kerry taking part in the radical discussion. "

They must all be lawyers! ??

++++++

Worse. All the people they talked to either now work for Kerry or hope to soon.

[cyncooper]

Last week, John Hurley, an organizer of veteran volunteers for Kerry's presidential run, called two men who were quoted in The Star as recalling Kerry attending the Kansas City meeting. John Musgrave of Baldwin City, Kan., said Hurley called him twice and in the second conversation asked the disabled veteran to contact the newspaper reporter to say he had doubts about the memory.

"He said, `I'd like you to consider that before that article comes out call him and tell him you were wrong,' " said Musgrave, who has expressed disappointment with Kerry's position on issues regarding prisoners of war.

Hurley said Friday he believed last week Musgrave was simply mistaken.

"I asked him to be very sure of his recollection, not to change his recollection," Hurley said. "I would apologize to John Musgrave if he thought in any way I was pressuring him."

Musgrave has stood firm in his memory despite coming under obvious pressure to recant. And we all noticed Barnes' suddenly fading memory.

So Hurley "would" apologize, but doesn't, I guess.