KERRY RETREATS FROM HIS DENIAL ON VIETNAM MEET - Evidence Puts Him At Kansas Parley

New York Sun ^ | Mar 19, 2004 | JOSH GERSTEIN

[stylin19a]

...disagreements with elements of VVAW leadership...

This is the key phrase. Kerry "eventually" will have total recall of the event. He will then use that phrase to explain he disagreed with targeting US Senators for assasination.

Course, it doesn't explain why, then, he didn't report the plot to the FBI. (oh wait..they already knew)

[Tabi Katz]

"Oh, THAT meeting! The one where we discussed assisinating Senators? Oh, yeah! I was there, I just forgot about it."

HAHA! It looks like our friend may be exhibiting signs of "Bill Clinton's Syndrome."

[Mo1]

I hate to disabuse everybody, but this is a non-starter. He was present at the meeting, he spoke and voted against it, then resigned. It spins as "Kerry, man of principle".

IF he was a man of principal .. then he would have reported the assassinating plot of U.S. Senators to the proper authorities

I'm gonna take a guess that he didn't do this or it would be in the FBI file

[Criminal Number 18F]

Oh, THAT meeting! The one where we discussed assisinating Senators?

Well, I drank a lot of iced tea, you see, and I was probably having to take a whiz when the assassination thing came up.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

[blanknoone]

Dean for Democraps anyone?

Deaniacs can pull of a 'flash meeting' but that is about it. The key piece of evidence is FBI documents. Who do we know who had FBI files?

[StriperSniper]

“John Kerry had no personal recollection of this meeting 33 years ago,”

At least he didn't do a Hitlery "I don't recall", his answer is sooo much more nuanced. ;-)

[par4]

Do you think that anyone in the mainstream media will notice that Kerry being unable to remember where he was 31 years ago is unremarkable, while the inability of a few members of the Alabama National Guard to remember who spent a couple of weekends at the base 35 years ago is big news?

Nah.....

[capt. norm]

Kerry is acting like a freshly-caught fish, flipping and flopping around on the deck.

[onyx]

FBI file?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Who had those a couple of years back?

[blanknoone]

I drank a lot of iced tea, you see

We really need to stop dems from drinking so much tea. Perhaps we should buy Lipton so they boycott it.

[OXENinFLA]

“John Kerry had no personal recollection of this meeting 33 years ago,” a Kerry campaign spokesman, David Wade, said in a statement e-mailed last night from Idaho, where Mr. Kerry is on vacation.

In other news David Wade was seen reading Hillary Clinton's new book 'A Living Lying History'

[Centaur]

Man I hope you're wrong. I would be sorely depressed if this country has gone from "it's just about sex" to its "just about murder"!

[John Thornton]

Course, it doesn't explain why, then, he didn't report the plot to the FBI. (oh wait..they already knew)

Remember all the whining the media has done about FBI surveillance of the anti-war movement? This one story proves the surveillance was entirely appropriate.

[schmelvin]

But he did resign as a National Coordinator if not from the organization as a whole. (Snort!)

Sounds like a CYA move to me. If he had one shred of decency, he would've reported the plot to the authorities and refused to have anything more to do with that organization.

It looks to me like he voted "No" and made a symbolic "partial resignation" to cover his posterior in the event some members of the group decided to go through with the plan anyway.

[Criminal Number 18F]

how can he not recall why he resigned from the organization that he founded

Point of detail. Kerry was a major public figure for VVAW in the 1970-1972 period, but the organisation was founded in 1967, before he went to war.

One of the founders was Jan Crumb, who was a radio mechanic for an aviation unit in 1963, before the war got hot. Another was a gay-activist photographer (his name escapes me) who had been in the Navy but not during the Vietnam War.. this established the pattern for the VVAW: some rear-echelon vets, some non-Vietnam vets, some non-vets, but hardly any combat vets. That's why Kerry was important to them.

The leader with whom Kerry had a falling out, Al Hubbard, is a phony. His records show that he was never in Vietnam. He also made claims (i.e. as a bomber pilot he bombed civilians, as a transport pilot he won medals) that weren't true: he was in the USAF as an enlisted guy, but not as a pilot, and no plane he was on as much as stopped to get gas in Vietnam.

A read through the issues of the VVAW magazine on their website introduces you to a who's who of poseurs and phonies (no wonder Janus French Kerry fit in), like Elton Manzione, a legend-in-his-own-mind "SEAL" that never, er, joined the Navy. Or anything else. (He says his records are classified. That's bull! Nobody's records are classified).

VVAW is still around in two versions, the far-left VVAW and the off-the-edge-extreme-left, Marxist-Leninist, VVAW-AI. The VVAW has made a statement on Kerry here [vvaw.org]. Reading between the lines, they don't seem to like him all that much either.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

[Hon]

Kerry Backs Away From Statements About 1971 Anti-War Meeting

(CNSNews.com) - A spokesman for Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry has retreated from an earlier statement claiming Kerry was not present at a November 1971 anti-war meeting in which the possible assassination of U.S. senators was discussed. "John Kerry had no personal recollection of this meeting 33 years ago," Kerry spokesman David Wade said in a statement provided to The New York Sun Thursday. Gerald Nicosia, a Kerry supporter and author of the book Home to War , was the source of the FBI documents obtained by CNSNews.com , proving, in Nicosia's judgment, that Kerry did attend the meetings. Scroll News This Hour and See Earlier Article

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[John Thornton]

Here is another point to consider:

Many independents will give Kerry a pass on all of his anti-war activities because, after all, he was just doing what he could for "peace."

But, once you start talking about killing senators, you are in a whole different ballgame. Even if he voted against it, he never told the authorities and remained as a spokesman for the organization. AND he has named the assassin to a position in his campaign.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

• Democratic presidential nominee was “absolutely certain” he was not present when the assassination plan, known as the “Phoenix Project,” was discussed.
• A total of six people have now said publicly that they remember seeing Mr. Kerry there.
• Participants say the plot was voted down, and several say they remember Mr. Kerry speaking and voting against it.
• A historian and expert on activism against the Vietnam War, Gerald Nicosia, provided the Sun yesterday with minutes of the meeting.
• “My evidence is incontrovertible.He was there,” Mr. Nicosia said in an interview yesterday.

Any guesses as to who is lying here?

And one follow up question:
If you knew about the plot and disagreed with it and voted against it as you state, Mr. Kerry...why didn't you report these people to the authorities? Surely, you must know that such plotting would be of interest to the FBI and the Secret Service. Don't you?

[Mo1]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm is right