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14 paramilitary troops among 38 killed in Wana: Militants seek exchange of captives (Updated story)
Dawn ^ | March 17 2004 | Ismail Khan

Posted on 03/17/2004 4:06:44 AM PST by Dog

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Wow!
1 posted on 03/17/2004 4:06:45 AM PST by Dog
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To: Cap Huff; Coop; Angelus Errare; section9; Travis McGee; Boot Hill
Stunning..
2 posted on 03/17/2004 4:08:32 AM PST by Dog
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The way they were firing on our troops, lobbing grenades and shooting rockets, jumping from one place to another and changing positions has taken us by surprise," he said.

If this official's statement is reflective of the unit's officers, no wonder they're having such trouble. I really feel for the enlisted soldiers, and I wish them all success in their difficult mission.

3 posted on 03/17/2004 4:16:11 AM PST by Coop ("Hero" is the last four-letter word I'd use to describe John Kerry)
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To: Dog
Things are heating up over there.
4 posted on 03/17/2004 4:16:30 AM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: Dog
I can think of one reason for the fierce resistance. Usama is in the area.
5 posted on 03/17/2004 4:18:47 AM PST by Larry381 (I just do what the voices tell me.)
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Someone big is in that area.......the pickup truck speeding away.....while the whole force of bad guys laid down covering fire....is a major clue.
6 posted on 03/17/2004 4:23:40 AM PST by Dog
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IMO, there must be tremendous diplomatic pressure on Pak. for it to be taking action of this magnitude, which makes me wonder who the US will side with when India and Pak. decide its time to renew conflict.
7 posted on 03/17/2004 4:24:27 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Cap Huff; Boot Hill; Coop
I found this tidbit in an article over at Fox.

The death toll from Tuesday's raid on a mud-brick compound in Kaloosha rose to 39 as some troops involved in the operation died of their injuries, a military spokesman said. Suspected terrorists and the tribesmen accused of harboring them fired on troops from the compound and from nearby hills.

Boot there is that name again...Kaloosha.

8 posted on 03/17/2004 4:43:30 AM PST by Dog
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Yes, this is a stunning account of a major battle. A couple of things that stand out to me are the lack of air, armored or artillery support for the grunt on the ground. It also looks like the tactic the battlefield commanders are employing is to throw flesh at the enemy.

Article place names:

Dabkot (Dab Kot) -- 3 miles (4 km) SW of Wana
Zari Noor -- unable to locate
Zha Ghondai (Zharra Ghundai) -- 37 miles (60 km) SE of Wana
Kaloosha (Azam Warzak?) -- 18 miles (27 km) SSW of Wana

For a more global perspective, click this Map of Pakistan

--Boot Hill

9 posted on 03/17/2004 5:07:45 AM PST by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!)
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They threw minor league troops at seasoned troops..
10 posted on 03/17/2004 5:15:50 AM PST by Dog
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If the casualties continue to mount like this, I think we can expect Mushi to call up the "A" team pretty soon, complete with our helicopter gun ships, artillery, the Nightstalkers, etc. The Paki infantry is ruining a perfectly good snipe hunt!

I just took a sleeping pill. I've got to get to bed before I become totally incoherent.

--Boot Hill

11 posted on 03/17/2004 5:33:31 AM PST by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!)
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So, where are the US Army "obverservs" with the GPS units. It only takes 2 minutes to put 2 GBU on target these days.
12 posted on 03/17/2004 5:34:44 AM PST by PokeyJoe (FreeBSD; The devil made me do it.)
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To: Dog
I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit.

It's the only way to be sure.

13 posted on 03/17/2004 5:36:35 AM PST by Jim Noble (Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
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I would like to see video of this, sounds like one hell of a battle.
14 posted on 03/17/2004 5:49:38 AM PST by Husker24
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I still don't fully understand the Pakistani political structure. These territories seem to be something like our own Indian reservations with a great deal of autonomy. For an operation of this magnitude, it sure seems like the regular Pakistani Army would be used, but instead it's these poorly-trained local paramilitary forces.
15 posted on 03/17/2004 5:50:40 AM PST by Dog Gone
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Pak regulars from the steamy lowlands wuld likely freeze their a$$es off up in these mountains and be useless. This "Northwest Frontier" is a different world from the rest of Pakistan.
16 posted on 03/17/2004 5:54:22 AM PST by LN2Campy
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"...makes me wonder who the US will side with when India and Pak. decide its time to renew conflict."

The one with the largest "nuclear deterrent"

17 posted on 03/17/2004 7:03:10 AM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thought you might find this of interest.
18 posted on 03/17/2004 9:06:36 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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The official said that the exchange of fire began when a double-cabin pick-up truck broke the cordon and escaped, braving hails of bullets. "What followed was unbelievable. Hundreds of people emerged from nowhere and began what was a ferocious resistance," the official said.

I wonder who was in the quad-cab pickup and how they managed to escape? Sounds like someone bribed their way out and the battle was just a cover story.

19 posted on 03/17/2004 9:10:30 AM PST by Dan Cooper
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I can think of one reason for the fierce resistance. Usama is in the area.

Bingo.

20 posted on 03/17/2004 9:43:34 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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