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Amigula Incorporated -- The World's First Publicly Traded Medical Marijuana Company
Business Wire ^ | March 15, 2004

Posted on 03/15/2004 3:04:00 PM PST by Wolfie

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To: William Terrell
What makes you think that these two properties are mutually exclusive?

The medical marijuana argument seems to me a disingenuous argument to make society sense it benefits by letting potheads get high.

...Unless one subscribes to global warming, as the science determining the value of medical pot is about as viable.

61 posted on 03/16/2004 12:58:46 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Durus
"Like you do care?"

Sure. I don't believe in recommending a carcinogen-loaded, bacteria-laden drug to a cancer patient. Or a drug shown to compromise the immune system to a patient with AIDS. Or a drug shown to reduce blood supply to the optic nerve to a glaucoma patient. Or a drug with objectionable side effects to a MS patient.

Or a drug that no major medical organization supports.

62 posted on 03/16/2004 1:07:11 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: onmyfeet
Um...I think it's the job of scientists to bear out their conclusions. Not that I'm sinking in the literature, though nothing I've yet seen to that end is convincing.
64 posted on 03/16/2004 1:35:21 PM PST by onedoug
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To: onedoug
The medical marijuana argument seems to me a disingenuous argument to make society sense it benefits by letting potheads get high.

For those in pain and unable to keep food down as a result of medical therapies, or for those with glaucoma, cannabis is not for the high, even though that may be a pleasant side effect. For others, they want to get high.

I see no danger, either personal or societal, in either motivation. The real danger is the police power levied against cannabis that results in the corruption of the agencies we charge with our protection, destruction of families and the effects of that on children, injury and death in sloppy drug raids and the diluting of our constitutional liberties both nation and state.

All this because of a plant that grows wild all over the Earth.

65 posted on 03/16/2004 2:07:05 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: onmyfeet
"I suppose you agree with the guy that posted the supporting information that smoked marijuana cures tetanus and uterine hemmorrhaging."

I haven't seen that information so I can't comment.

Gotten behind on reading the Soros' drug propaganda websites?

67 posted on 03/16/2004 2:12:46 PM PST by cinFLA
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To: onmyfeet
The Institute of Medicine report I quoted says that smoked maarijuna will never be a medicine.
68 posted on 03/16/2004 2:13:59 PM PST by cinFLA
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To: robertpaulsen
Medical marijuana is not my beef, but I will say that Marinol has THC in it, not any of the other "agents" in marijuana that might be medically useful. Sativex® is actually made from marijuana though. I think there are at least two versions of it. One has more of the "other cannabinoids" and less THC, and they are looking at how various cannabinoids might be used for treating various ailments.
71 posted on 03/16/2004 3:30:59 PM PST by TKDietz
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To: onmyfeet
Re your #46, I know a woman who smokes marijuana for her nausea, virtually all day long. Despite what you've quoted from the IOM report, I don't think it's helping her with anything but staying stoned all day.

And she's nauseous anyway.

72 posted on 03/16/2004 4:58:34 PM PST by onedoug
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To: onmyfeet; cinFLA
"I suppose you agree with the guy that posted the supporting information that smoked marijuana cures tetanus and uterine hemmorrhaging."

I haven't seen that information so I can't comment. If you want my opinion, post a link.

That is because cinFLA is lying as usual.

The thread is on Rimonabant, a cannabinoid derivative. The post is #16 concerning the historical use of marijuana as a medicine.

cinFLA can't understand two things - 1) his false statement that marijuana can never be a medicine is false because it has been a medicine for centuries and is used currently as one, Canada is one place. See post #37 in the linked thread for how his reasoning denies that Charlton Heston will ever be a movie star.

2) As cinFLA is obviously not a medical professional, he can not differentiate between a treatment and a cure. Those of us in medicine know that the medical usage of treatment is to address symptoms to stabilize and alleviate them - like giving percocet to someone with a kidney stone to treat the pain. In the 1800's marijuana was used as a treatment which he deliberately misconstrues as a cure - like marijuana is claimed as a miracle panacea. He then refutes his own lying exaggeration so as to impress himself with a 'winning' argument.

The fact that he uses his lie in another thread and post without the decency to include the 'other guy' as the source of his lie gives you an indication of his basic behavioral reliability.

73 posted on 03/17/2004 4:19:17 AM PST by Ophiucus
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To: Ophiucus
(As Ophicus tries to wriggle out of his self-dug hole ...)

"In his reports of the late 1830's and early 1840's, O'Shaughnessy (1842: 431) stated that tetanus could be arrested and cured when treated with extra large doses of cannabis."
74 posted on 03/17/2004 7:04:36 AM PST by cinFLA
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To: Ophiucus
Those of us in medicine know that the medical usage of treatment is to address symptoms to stabilize and alleviate them

I can just see someone visiting Ophicus with a case of tetanus. He says 'just go home and smoke some dope'. All your problems will go up in smoke.

75 posted on 03/17/2004 7:06:45 AM PST by cinFLA
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To: Wolfie
Why don't they hire John "Tokin'" Kerry?
76 posted on 03/17/2004 7:09:13 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace (Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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To: Ophiucus
A real panacea! Wow!

"In Argentina: Cannabis is considered a real panacea for tetanus, colic, gastralgia, swelling of the liver, gonorrhea, sterility, impotency, abortion, tuberculosis of the lungs and asthma, even the root-bark has been collected in spring, and employed as a febrifuge, tonic, for treatment of dysentery and gastralgia, either pulverized or in form of decoctions"
77 posted on 03/17/2004 7:10:01 AM PST by cinFLA
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To: Ophiucus
- like marijuana is claimed as a miracle panacea.

hmmm

"In Argentina: Cannabis is considered a real panacea for tetanus, colic, gastralgia, swelling of the liver, gonorrhea, sterility, impotency, abortion, tuberculosis of the lungs and asthma, even the root-bark has been collected in spring, and employed as a febrifuge, tonic, for treatment of dysentery and gastralgia, either pulverized or in form of decoctions"

78 posted on 03/17/2004 7:21:29 AM PST by cinFLA
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To: Ophiucus
Appendicitis and snake bite cures! Gives another meaning to "snake oil" remedy.

Murphy (1963: 20) refers to an article by Lang, Treatment of Acute Appendicitis with a Mixture of Ma Jen, which says the drug has apparently been used in China for the treatment of appendicitis.

The Xosa tribe in South Africa employs it for treatment of inflammation of the feet (Kabelik et al., 1960: 7), while the Mfengu and Hottentot use the plant as a snake-bite remedy (Watt, 1962: 13).

79 posted on 03/17/2004 7:52:01 AM PST by cinFLA
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To: Ophiucus
I thought marijuana made you hungry????

"Cannabis is used in Hindu and Sikh temples and at Mohammedan shrines. Besides using the drug as an aid to meditation, it is also used to overcome hunger and thirst by the religious mendicants. "

80 posted on 03/17/2004 7:57:27 AM PST by cinFLA
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