Amigula Incorporated -- The World's First Publicly Traded Medical Marijuana Company

Business Wire ^ | March 15, 2004

[cinFLA]

You said MrLeroy.

[jmc813]

You said MrLeroy.

I ever tell you how much I miss that son of a gun?

Anywhoo, gotta run. Off to drink ridiculous amounts of Guiness and make fun of the Irish. Be good.

[Ophiucus]

(As Ophicus tries to wriggle out of his self-dug hole ...)
"In his reports of the late 1830's and early 1840's, O'Shaughnessy (1842: 431) stated that tetanus could be arrested and cured when treated with extra large doses of cannabis."

Interestingly stupid thing to do.

• That's not my source.
  
• I never made that claim.
  
• You had made the false claim, a straw man, as an attack and now have supported your own straw man.
• You just used a source to prove the argument against you all by yourself.
  

Congratulations. It's not often someone makes an outrageous claim to 'disprove' the opposition, and then ends up proving it themselves. Let the record show that cinFLA has made the proposition that marijuana is a medicine that cures tetanus.

[Ophiucus]

"Those of us in medicine know that the medical usage of treatment is to address symptoms to stabilize and alleviate them " I can just see someone visiting Ophicus with a case of tetanus. He says 'just go home and smoke some dope'. All your problems will go up in smoke.

You did it again - a lie. When your argument is weak, you lie.

No honest person could go from word usage to an attack of "all your problems will go up in smoke."

[Ophiucus]

Thank you. Your posts 77-79, although not giving your source in one instant and only partially crediting the others, further illustrates the point that marijuana, smoked and in preparations, has been used as a medicine.

You have successfully countered your own proposition.

[cinFLA]

You did it again - a lie.

Where's the lie?

[cinFLA]

further illustrates the point that marijuana, smoked and in preparations, has been used as a medicine.

If you consider marijuana as a cure for tetanus and uterine hemmorhaging but I don't think I would want you for my doctor.

[cinFLA]

That's not my source. I never made that claim.

You did not source it so I had to take it as your claim. You posted it and my claim against it so I assumed that it was your position.

[Ophiucus]

Where's the lie?

The discussion - 1800's use of marijuana as a treatment

The statement - "Those of us in medicine know that the medical usage of treatment is to address symptoms to stabilize and alleviate them "

The response - "I can just see someone visiting Ophicus with a case of tetanus. He says 'just go home and smoke some dope'. All your problems will go up in smoke."

The lie - You tell people to to smoke dope to make their problems go away and treat their tetanus.

That is a lie, it is also libelous and defamatory.

[Ophiucus]

Thus you repeat your lies when disproved.

"further illustrates the point that marijuana, smoked and in preparations, has been used as a medicine."
If you consider marijuana as a cure for tetanus and uterine hemmorhaging but I don't think I would want you for my doctor.

Marijuana ONCE was used as a TREATMENT NOT A CURE as you well know but continue to LIE about.

[Ophiucus]

You did not source it so I had to take it as your claim. You posted it and my claim against it so I assumed that it was your position.

Check back to the original post in the original thread, liar. It is sourced.

Never did I ever use the word cure - that was always your lie.

[cinFLA]

Never did I ever use the word cure - that was always your lie.

We have been through this before. You used "effective treatment". An effective treatment for tentanus and uterine hemmorrhaging.

[cinFLA]

That is a lie, it is also libelous and defamatory.

It is not a lie. It was just my vision of you as I posted. Based on your repeated postings of marijuana being used as an effective treatment for tetanus and uterine hemmorrhaging.

[cinFLA]

his false statement that marijuana can never be a medicine is false

I never said that marijuana can never be a medicine.

[Ophiucus]

We have been through this before. You used "effective treatment". An effective treatment for tentanus and uterine hemmorrhaging.

The source used effective treatment and you twisted that into cure - thus the start of your lie.

[Ophiucus]

It is not a lie. It was just my vision of you as I posted. Based on your repeated postings of marijuana being used as an effective treatment for tetanus and uterine hemmorrhaging.

A lie compounded by a lie. I posted one historical reference "In 1830's, there were published papers regarding the use of cannibus as an analgesic, anti-spasmodic, and muscle relaxant. Medical papers of the late 1800's and early 1900's listed cannabis as an effective treatment for tetanus, neuralgia, analgesia for persistent pain, uterine hemmorhage, and to relieve withdrawal symptoms of alcoholics."

Nothing was repeated by me, that was stated once. You have repeated the same edited remark, ignoring the dates, the usage for neuralgia, persistent pain, and withdrawal with the distortion of cure instead of treatment. It is not surprising that you dropped withdrawal as that is what the new drug is being used for - withdrawal and addiction.

See how you lie.

It was just my vision of you as I posted.

Right - an ad hominem attack stating that I would tell patients to smoke dope for all their problems.

[nopardons]

But back then, it wasn't smoked,for medical purposes;pot was used as a ticture or tea.

[Ophiucus]

I never said that marijuana can never be a medicine.

Blatant lie. In the Rimonabant thread:
#14 - Research has shown that smoked marijuana will never be a medicine.
#17 - I repeat: Research has shown that smoked marijuana will never be a medicine.
#19 - I repeat: Research has shown that smoked marijuana will never be a medicine
#33 - Smoked marijuana is not going to be a medicine. #104 - My point is that research has shown that smoked marijuana will never be a medicine.
This thread:
#68 - The Institute of Medicine report I quoted says that smoked marijuana will never be a medicine.

As the discussion renewed from your post in #55 of this thread, using the lie about smoked marijuana as a cure, it has continued about the use of smoked marijuana as a medicine which you have argued many times it can not be a medicine. You've even argued against it further in this thread.

[jmc813]

You need to visit these WOD threads more often. We miss ya!

[Ophiucus]

But back then, it wasn't smoked,for medical purposes;pot was used as a ticture or tea.

Correct that it was used in a tea combination, China especially, and ticture, or tincture. It was also used in alcohol solution much like opium.

However, you are incorrect about smoked form. In ancient China and Egypt, it is thought to have been one of the earliest uses. Yet, the preparations from marijuana became much more common as medicine progressed into the late 1800's just as the use dropped during the 1900s as other drugs were developed.