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New Spanish PM Blasts Bush, Blair; Accuses them of lying; Suggests force not answer to terrorism
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| March 15, 2004
| nwrep
Posted on 03/15/2004 6:25:24 AM PST by nwrep
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To: Quilla
new PM of spain will definitely be a one termer. Maybe his govt will fall before the next elelction since he doesnt have a majority
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posted on
03/15/2004 8:38:36 AM PST
by
raloxk
To: January24th
Steyn's next column on the Spanish Election will be a classic.
What we really need is someone to do a political cartoon of the New Spanish PM prostrate on the ground, praying islamic-style towards the figure of Osama Bin Laden.
To: roses of sharon
Excellent! Thank you for clearing that up. They are still foolish people. b.
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posted on
03/15/2004 9:06:21 AM PST
by
Barset
To: nwrep
Prodi said. "Terrorism is infinitely more powerful than a year ago," and all of Europe now feels threatened, he told the paper. That's because they can't operate freely in America anymore, so they're attacking in Europe. Time to take the WOT seriously Europe!
To: Longbow1969
We scored touchdowns in Afghanistan and Iraq and got field goals for the deaths or capture of many of the Al-Qaeda leaders, the capture of Saddam, and the capitulation of Libya. However, the terrorists got a touchdown on their opening drive on 9-11, field goals in Bali, Kenya, Tunisia, and Turkey, and another touchdown with a two-point conversion for Madrid.
If you add these scores up, they still have the lead, 26-23. We've got to get Osama and his lunatics out of action as soon as possible, before Kerry uses the sheeples fears to sneak into the White House and forfeits the game on account of his gutlessness.
To: Stonewall Jackson
Some good points here.
"We've got to get Osama and his lunatics out of action as soon as possible, before Kerry uses the sheeples fears to sneak into the White House and forfeits the game on account of his gutlessness."
I agree with you here to a point. The problem I have is that I don't think the terror war is anywhere close to being over. I think this is a clash of civilizations. Catching Bin Laden and his cronies is only a small part of it.
John Kerry may well win in November, infact I am leaning in the direction that he may be. Saying that, I am not the defeatist many assume I am by saying such a thing. I just, flat out, don't think the West (to include the United States) really understands the war we are engaged in. The West, even the US, is attempting to fight a sort of politically correct pinprick conflict - assuming that our enemy is just a few bad apples and fanatics. This is the wrong approach, and everytime I hear Bush (no matter how well intentioned he may be) say that Islam is a "religion of peace" with a straight face, I believe that even he is trying to avoid acceptance of the awful horror of what we are really up against.
In the long term, militant Islam, an ideology the majority of Muslims are edging every closer towards, will be defeated. And if Kerry wins it will only be a setback - just part and parcel of the failures the West will need to endure before it is really prepared to engage in the fight in a way that will eventually achieve victory.
Bush is indeed a man whom generally grasps the threat, and history will regard him as one of the first Western leaders to really stand against our enemies, but American and European populations just aren't ready yet to face up to the challenge......net yet anyway.
Longbow
To: Monty22
"french look like noble warriors" That's the ultimate oxymoron, fella. ;-)
107
posted on
03/15/2004 3:05:59 PM PST
by
TexasRepublic
(Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!)
To: Piranha
"The Norwegians did just fine under Vidkun Quisling during World War II."
Yoooou don't know your history mate. The Norwegians suffered executions, deportations, imprisonment just like all the other countries.
Vichy France was no picnic either if you happned to believe in freedom, or were a Jew, or a Gypsy or a Communist, or an intellectual, or a former military officer who would not serve teh Germans.
108
posted on
03/15/2004 5:41:05 PM PST
by
txzman
To: txzman
You're right to call me on my earlier post. I was very upset this morning and my comments were way overstated. Still, those Norwegians who were NOT Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals and/or communists, and who were able to live with their moral cowardice and utter lack of integrity, were not particularly harmed.
Obviously, I am not arguing for this approach to totalitarians, murderous terrorists or even schoolyard bullies. My point is that some people are so self-centered that they think that the right thing to do is to ignore man's inhumanity to man, as long as they are not directly attacked. I think that's what happened in Spain.
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posted on
03/15/2004 6:30:06 PM PST
by
Piranha
To: petercooper
Hey, come on!
Talk to the Spanish soldiers in Iraq. They don't want to come back! Talk to the forty something percent of us who voted for the Popular Party! We want to stay in Iraq! On the other hand, people voted thinking "Please please don't hurt us" That large turnout at the polls was meant to say "This is a democracy and we are not afraid" I didn't vote for the socialists, but I am sure the intention of the voters was to punish the current government for mishandling the crisis. People don't forgive spin around here.
And I must recognise that I liked the new goverment first decisions. Redouble antiterrorist efforts and designating a hawk as Defence Secretary. Things are not as simple as they seem.
To: Al Mctwaine
Talk to the forty something percent of us who voted for the Popular Party!" Ok, so 60% of spaniards are stupid. We have 50% stupid in this country
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posted on
03/22/2004 6:30:44 AM PST
by
petercooper
(I actually did vote for the $87 Billion, before I voted against it.)
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